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Add GPQ skillbooks to drop table

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by brunandes, Jun 22, 2023.

  1. brunandes
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    brunandes Windraider

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    Taunt30 and ninja storm30 are exclusively from GPQ. As a result they are almost never seen in the fm, probably because GPQ is dead.
    Is it possible to add them to certain mob's drop table? I think most other GPQ skilbooks drop from at least 1 mob.
     
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    at a high enough price people will again run gpq
     
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    That will never happen because both taunt and ninja storm are memeskills
     
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    What about Ifrit 30 and Elquines 30? I'm not sure if removing any incentive at all to ever get your guild to run GPQ with you is a good idea. Wouldn't it be better to keep GPQ exclusive drops and also try to increase the incentive somehow?
     
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    Add those to the list as well. GPQ is a waste of time and those locked skillbooks are not important enough to warrant a good price. Just let people be able to hunt for themselves.
     
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    This reminds me spammed B>ninja storm 30, 100m so few bored guildies farmed that book and sold me.

    It happened, and happens.
     
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    and maybe if gpq had a rework? not just the drops themselves
     
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    If anything that just shows how ridiculous it is tbh. A niche skill having the most expensive skillbook after maple warrior just because the supply is locked behind a meme content that nobody does. Still having to beg people to run it no less.
     
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    I personally think that people don't run the PQ because of the food/drinks and the jump parts because its just such a bore to try to complete, unless you're a god at jumping or know where to drop the food/drinks to unlock the next stage.

    Stage 1 has that statue puzzle that is just so confusing, food/drinks stage is like where do I place this?, and the spear stage is just a jump quest that people get hit by lasers and trade the spear to complete it.

    It becomes a joke when the portals that you have to enter to go to certain parts of the stage to advance to the next stage is also confusing. (I forget these pipe portals all the time, that Ducky would tell me "Cmon, its this portal let's hurry this up, how many times have you completed this before") :(

    I still miss Ducky, even though I annoyed the frick out of him with my memory problems :/


    GPQ should have something changed so that its not a nuisance to complete stages so that people can run more GPQs to get books to sell or trade to the community or to their guild members.
     
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    You can solo gpq
     
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    I respectfully disagree.

    By bringing a friend with a functional jump key, you can completely bypass the parts you find challenging by having them carry you through it. It is a party quest after all.

    Regarding the other stages being confusing… I’m sure you can do it with some practice.
    The first stage is quite literally monkey see, monkey do. Statues light up in a specific order? Ok, hit them in that order.
    Food/drink/medal/scroll is just the game Mastermind with fewer options. Completely logical.

    However, I do agree that it could use some additional incentives (see: better rewards, exp) for people to run it more often. A small QoL like allowing mounts inside would go a long way for me personally.
     
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    I agree with having additional incentives for running GPQ. I used to run a lot with old guildies for the prospect of getting a Taunt 30 drop.
    The major issue with the current drop table is that it's severely outdated, since the Taunt and Shaolin nerfs destroyed the utility of Taunt and mage summons respectively. The handful of other scrolls are really meh too. Only the NX might be worth it for washing characters. Maybe having a very small chance for various 30s, coin, unique equip, or chair could help.
    Of course, it should be balanced so that it's not OP for people who can solo GPQ in 20min, though it's still physically limited by the number of boxes you can hit.
     
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    Honestly I'd be interested in exploring non-monetary incentives, especially ones that aren't one-and-done (like skillbooks, unique equips, and chairs). Something like a month-long guild-wide buff that does nothing except display a small icon on the character (similar to valentine's hearts) would be cute. An incentive that encourages the social aspect of GPQ rather than sweaty farming would be nice.
     
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    That's how economy works. Technically I was able to farm alone but I felt lazy, so wished to let others farm it for me, and I had to be responsible for my behavior. Think that's similar with all service works irl. You can do stuffs with your own hand, still calls agent and pay them because of some reasons, and to make them willing to work for you, you need to pay enough price.

    If this seems ridiculous, I have no idea what to say. I do know it's meme skill and to fullfill my greed for being perfectionist, I made that decision. If you don't think it's worth to pay like that, you can just skip it - that's another choice.

    What you misunderstand is - I didn't beg them, but I just made them willing to work for me, with enough price. You may need to beg them if you don't want to incentive them enough I think.

    Remember, there's no The Ten Commandments came from Mountain Sinai written with 'proper price' for stuffs.
     
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    This defeats the whole purpose of gpq then. I agree gpq needs some kind of revamp to incentivise people to run but that is a bigger undertaking, locking some meme skills behind it isn't it.
     
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    back in days i remember doing duo pretty easy
     
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    My point exactly. Hunting mobs can be a solo activity. GPQ shouldn't.
     
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    On second thought, there probably is space to add these books to a mob's drop table, just one that isn't farmed so easily.
    This one in particular seems like a good fit: https://maplelegends.com/lib/monster?id=9300028
     
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    Apples should drop from geist baldog too
     

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