New Mage damage formula

No, the impact is quite noticeable especially on apple/cheese. Previously mages were similar in DPM to the best classes in Nib and PB body. Now they are uncontested, and the highest by a good margin, provided they have equal levels of funding.

 

I understand that, but cheese/apple usage is the standard for PB. Attackers are also on apple as well. It wouldn’t make sense to compare attackers on apple to mages not using consumes.

 

They do not vs. PB body. Attackers deal 50% damage.

Also mages are the highest DPM in nib even without cheese

 

No, unless you count inflation to minibeans.

I mean the post you were replying to was asking if mages can do bossing content and you said no. Im just pointing out there’s actually a decent amount of content where mages aren’t just viable, they’re top tier.

 

I’ve listed the others in the main balance thread I believe but I’ll reiterate here

Best in the game: PB body, Nib
Top pick: Nameless, Dunas 1, Auf
Better than average: Verga
Mediocre: Core Blaze, Dunas 2, PB statues

Seeing as how nobody runs Toad or BGA, that really just leaves JC, Zak, Krex, CWK and Horntail as fights where mages are low tier picks, and if you really want to nit pick they can still run those fights if you build around them.

 

I believe DrChuchu sent stats of mid (or even low) lvl/gear mages showing that they didn't get nerfed. It's really only the lvl 120-130 mages with 0 gear that choose to spec into their non-ult skills early.
A few levels and a fairly low threshold of funding gets you beyond the point where the new formula nerfed players.

 

Hey, I resent that. I got nerfed too!

 

No, I was moreso referring to the unfunded lvl 130 post.

 

There don't have to be any big upgrades. With the (unrealistically low) threshold of funding ChuChu picked in his example, there's heaps of affordable upgrades. It's not like a lvl 130 mage with ~100-150m in funding would suddenly stall out after hitting 130. Virtually all your grinding options are profitable and your TMA from gear should logically increase quite rapidly at that point.

 

It's amazing, as someone whose first character was an IL mage, im actually motivated to make one now! though its sad all the viable bosses are high level, as a mage it shouldn't be too hard to get to that level, i bet, while making some meso hehehehe. (though i do wish some of the lower lv bosses were also viable since some of my friends made arch mages as their first character and won't be lvl 163 any time soon)

 

Yes, I do feel like that seems affordable to most people by the time they hit 180. Besides, it's gear + mw20, with mw20 giving a whopping 91 int at lvl 180.