A better server!

first part -1 i want it to be more gms like
2nd part+1 i undertsand its kinda annoying
3rd part -1 i think there shouldnt be too many scrolls dis is y i quit royals as soon as i hit 2nd job
4th part -1 eventually there will be enough high lvs

 

I like your intentions in trying to better the server, but here are some things I have to say.

• The poll is sort of misleading. You only have two options of yes/no and that seems to imply that you either agree with all 4 options or you don't agree. Some people, like @beamcasting seem to like some of the suggestions but not every suggestion so that is an example of where this poll may not be very accurate.
• I do feel like CWKPQ would be an interesting idea for more high-level content, but seeing that the new WZ. update isn't even out right now, I think the other things like ToT and Magatia should first be released before Kim has anything else to worry about on her checklist. After the WZ. update it's an idea to consider, though.
• I do understand the complaint about Zakum and think that changing the time would be a good idea; it would help with business in regards to arranging Zhelm services as well in a more accommodating way for the customers.
• However, about your point on motivation: like you said, new content doesn't necessarily improve motivation. "The issue with the server is motivation. Even with the new content it will not change much." Isn't your point about adding CWKPQ basically adding more content on top of what is to come for the high levels (ToT)? That point seemed a little contradictory to me, but maybe that's just me. Would like some clarification. It seems like you desire another medium of receiving chaos/white scrolls, but I'm not sure if CWKPQ is the way to go about increasing the number of these scrolls.
• More scrolls is ultimately something that I think will be under the staff's jurisdiction. That being said, I can sympathize with the desire of getting like a ~10 att PAC or something with an increased influx of chaos/white scrolls. I do think that more of these scrolls wouldn't be bad, but the method of receiving such scrolls is something to be carefully considered.

Overall, nice post though I am just a little uncertain if these suggestions will truly help motivate people. Besides, the current state of the server isn't exactly bad

 

Whereas I agree with most your points/suggestions, I feel like most here is just a matter of time until it's available. Legends is relatively new and whereas I, too, would love to see more end-game content and a more flourishing market, it's something that requires time and effort. I'd rather see something be done properly and take a while (the hyped update coming in the foreseeable future) instead of being rushed into things and having to face bugs and problems along the way. To break down my post...

1. I don't see a problem with this, but I don't know how much time and effort it would cost to change this... If it's not too much of a hassle, I'd be all for it since it offers way more flexibility than the current system.
2. You're completely right here. The market for scrolls, both normal scrolls and Chaos/White Scrolls, is abysmal and some scrolls cannot be obtained or at least barely. Gachapon and the way people spend NX play a big role in this, but I'm pretty sure a Gachapon revamp is being worked on. Once this happens, I'm sure things will change... But you're absolutely right in saying something has to be done about the situation. I'm personally someone who is competitive but not in terms of level, meaning I tend to gain wealth and gear, and the lack of scrolls and therefore a chance at getting good or end-game gear is nearly non-existant. Having more scrolls available would also definitely boost the server's economy, which honestly could get a big boost if you ask me.
3. I'm not sure on this one... CWKPQ surely is a good addition but is very end-game, to be fair. It's fun and would give players something to look out for, especially if WS/CS would be obtainable there. The main argument against it is the point of nostalgia; it might be a relative/subjective term, but many people might find CWKPQ as either game-breaking (no MoN would change that) or not nostalgic. It might be a good idea after other changes are made (The points mentioned above, as well as the upcoming update with ToT, Magatia, etc.), but isn't high priority IMO.
4. This is the main reason people are quitting left and right. Motivation is lacking for many, I suppose, since mesos are worthless and the economy is fucked (for lack of a better word); I'm not motivated to train much simply due to the lack of scrolls or even a decent market. I'm not saying we should become Royals 2.0 and make WS/CS pop up at every corner and devaluate mesos and other items in the process, but right now, there's simply no prospects of good or (near-)perfect gear to be made. This goes hand in hand with point 2, though. It's really just a consequence of the current situation.

So all in all, I'd say that your points are good and I agree that something should be changed, but honestly, I'm sure most of the staff and playerbase already knew before this. It's not the first post and this is more of a collective post throwing together suggestions that are (hopefully) already being worked on. Patience is key...

Spoiler: That Chaos Scroll...

mfw when I saw that shit sold for 7m

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I think the biggest issue isn't end game content, but content after 4th job. If you hit 4th job, yet still only have 2-3 places to grind after 4th job, that still makes the game boring. There needs to be more progressive content in this game. Like training for lvls 120-130 or something, and then places to train from like 130-140 etc, and have more clearable party boss/pq content sprinkled throughout those levels.

Disagree about 50% chaos scrolls, white scrolls, etc. That's insane. What do you do when people make multiple accounts just for that pq. You will start seeing people getting end game content really freaking quick. Imo I think it should be like 1-5% chance of them dropping.

 

I think it was said, ToT will come, that is pretty end game.
This server replicates gms a lot, so don't expect new maps and content.

 

Well there's already end game with horntail,yet as the post states, a lot of people get burned out after 120 and never make it to horntail.

 

I think the biggest problem right now is with the economy. Too much demand and simply NO supply. imo..

 

I think more variation among training maps (outside of skeles with a bishop) will give people more motivation to train and grind, for example when ToT is added or if Crimson Guardians are made more viable to grind at.

I agree with the zakum timer, and I think that should be implemented for other bosses like Pap, who only lets u enter twice every 24 hours, and would be better to reset at midnight.

 

I've never been high level enough to deal with cwpq or tot in any version of maple, so any opinion I have on the matter wouldn't hold much weight.

Zakum timer, sure if it makes it easier for people to organize or run or whatever why not. Unless I'm misunderstanding it I don't see it as an issue.

However in relation to chaos scrolls and white scrolls, any new ways to implement them with pqs, drops, whatever, regardless of how minimal they might be at the start will eventually grow and become an issue because the amount of players being able to to get them will inevitably increase over time. It'll get to the point where the rate they're aquired is exponentially growing and then everyone starts complaining about too many scrolls on the server.

I don't have a better solution, that's just an issue I think might come up in the future. Not trying to shit in your cornflakes, just pointing it out.

This was very well thought out tho, good job.

 

A man had a vision of creating his own park so he did, at first people came there and seemed to enjoy playing and being in the park.
The owner wanted the park to be the way he planned it so he continued working hard to improve it to make it the best park around but he was adamant about how he wanted it to be, he worked very hard to constantly improve it but noticed that the same people stopped coming around. One day he decided to ask a kid that's been coming there ever since he made it why some people stopped coming, the kid said well the park is great but some things I think could make it better! He then started to try something different and rework it along with some of the ideas that the people gave and suddenly everyone seemed more happy and even the people that stopped coming came back!. At that moment he realised that it wasn't about having the best park in town, but it was about creating something for the people to enjoy and making them happy, that in his mind was the best park.

Change is always better, if the GMs are more willing to consider player suggestions as implementations in the game then I believe this can only grow into something much greater. Players make the game, the game should also provide for the players like a two way street, and we know that always works out for the best. New is always better than the old, this server has already helped us relive the nostalgia now it's time for it to create something for us to relive.

 

Time for another story.

Servant: Your Majesty, I am nothing but a servant, but my family and I don’t need too much – just a roof over our heads and warm food to fill our tummies.

The evil king was unhappy with the servants answer. So he wanted to do something bad to him. He called one of his advisor and asked for help.

The advisor said to the king, My lord, place 99 Gold coins in a bag and leave it at this servant’s doorstep and so did the king.

When the servant saw the bag, he took it into his house. When he opened the bag, he let out a great shout of joy. So many gold coins! He began to count them. After several counts, he was at last convinced that there were 99 coins.

He wondered, “What could’ve happened to that last gold coin? Surely, no one would leave 99 coins!” He looked everywhere he could, but that final coin was elusive. Finally, exhausted, he decided that he was going to have to work harder than ever to earn that gold coin and complete his collection.

From that day, the servant’s life was changed. He was overworked, horribly grumpy, and castigated his family for not helping him make that 100th gold coin. He stopped singing while he worked.

“Let me get that one final thing and then I will be happy for life.”
People will always yearn for more once they grow bored of something. I'm not saying the server should be just frozen and no updates should come out at all. However, we should keep in mind that new content doesn't necessarily mean long-term happiness. Also when thinking about the future we should be extremely careful with things that affect the economy, such as scrolls. The reason why gach is good for chaos/white, is because it can't be really monopolized. It is possible right now to scroll a perf weapon, but it takes a lot of time. Mostly because there just isn't enough scrolls in the market. But, I'm stuck in the army right now so I can't really make any impactful opinions. Just throwing that out there.
If the players feel this scroll change would be good, then as the saying goes: "you go by the masses".

I think there was a lot of good in this post, like the zakum change people have nodded their heads at. But looking at things like scrolls, should be touched with silky mitts before implementing them.

 

Ballsack.

 

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read in regards to a nostalgia server.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but chaos scrolls started dropping from mobs in v63, so that point isn't necessarily relevant.

 

Pretty sure it was even later. I don't think Chaos should drop, but it'd be a good reward from end-game PQs or bosses. And, of course, if Gachapon gets updated, the Chaos Scroll rate can be buffed... And White Scroll, too...