Blood wash should not be penalized with Max HP Loss

Tbh, I actually like the idea of subtracting the minimum from the range that gets added. I think all jobs have variable HP gains on fresh AP. And if we take the bottom limit to take out, that would not be gamebreaking imo. Might just be a very small help... but it's a help nonetheless.

 

Not everyone does +HP(fresh) -MP(reset) +MainStat.

 

Alternatively, it would be nice to have more HP profit from bloodwashing and later resetting. Setting the -HP to -14 means you can make some fair gains later on by either going +HP and resetting for -HP +stat on level. Let's say from level 170 to 200 you level with 120 gear int, it means you can go +HP with all 5 fresh AP, for an average of 90 HP, then reset 4 HP and 1 MP for -56 HP. The total gain would be an additional 34 HP on top of the average of 22 for leveling. In total you'd gain 1680 HP between 170 and 200.

It also means you can purely convert NX into HP, just at an incredibly slow rate. A million NX could be converted to 645 HP on a level 200 character.

 

Do you realize what you're saying here?

Bloodwashing is using level AP into your HP and keeping it there, where would your damage be?

How about you make another character a test your hypothesis in what you're saying?

• Bloodwashing adds all FRESH AP into HP where is their damage going to be?
• Regular HP washing, NOT double or triple wash would recycle MP into HP and return damage slowly.
• Double or Triple washing would give you HP but in turn give you more damage or both HP and damage depending on which you chose (This was why I showed my stats in my posts, however being deemed a "flexer" I'm not even going to bother mentioning it or showing it in this post/thread.)

Source

Another note you only mention Warrior's reset HP stat but you fail to mention it in your post so why aren't you mentioning other classes HP AP reset stats?


Warrior After 2nd job : Min MP: 4 x lv +155

HP Increase: 20

MP Decrease: 4


Pirate After 2nd job : Min MP: 18 x lv + 95

HP Increase: 18

MP Decrease: 16


Thief After 2nd job : Min MP: 14 x lv +135

HP Increase: 16

MP Decrease: 12


Bowman After 2nd job : Min MP: 14 x lv + 135

HP Increase: 16

MP Decrease 12

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What I'm saying is, why are you trolling?

 

^ What is this? Warrior reset stats.
• Mention it for Mages(sweaty mages that would want to HP wash after hitting 30k MP)
• Mention it for Bowman
• Mention it for Thief
• Mention it for Pirate

Mentioning Warrior only in terms of AP Resetting and making it look like "to new players to not lose damages early on"

Did you do your research on what Bloodwashing really is?

wow.
Nice job copy pasting what I said before. Kudos.

 

just out of curiosity have you tested this out to see if the maximum is deducted every time? I know the image says -20 but have you checked whether it’s a visual glitch similar to how mp washing for a mage says -whatever but only takes off 30 each time.

 

Hey guys stop arguing the pokémon online community coordinator is always right

 

not very sure on what kind of blood wash is being referred to.
i literally only play warrior class, so maybe we can use this as a starting point for clarification?

If we are using fresh AP to bloodwash, i believe warriors will gain 50-54 HP per Fresh AP Point. when using AP reset to take away the HP, it will be a fixed 50 HP. When used this way, Warriors doesn't get penalized.

However, if we are doing stale bloodwash, warriors will only gain ~20 HP per AP Reset. When player decide later to reset it back to main stat (by removing HP), he will have -30 HP penality.

Correcr me if I'm wrong, for I really don't any other classes. But for bowman/thiefs, Fresh AP provides 20-24 HP per fresh AP bloodwash, and 20 HP per stale blood wash right?

 

@Voxtagram, even if you don't read, at least look at the pic ._.

 

Now you're explaining it instead of just barking about reseting it as a Warrior.

Since you asking me with my "FeEt HaS EyEs" and if I 'ffrtfyhpoed ewskitfhj njkuyg dfvred' (type with my feet) in case you can't read I'm not typing gibberish

I'll explain another thing which makes no sense.



If you use the commands in discord with Drods it shows

HP washing



Bloodwashing





When you ask Drods to calculate how much AP is 'Bloodwashed' in HP/MP it tells you it which means
if you put points into HP/MP it shows you how much is in the stat for both and they STAY THERE until you move it, if you move it, its NOT there anymore which means its NOT bloodwash anymore.

• INT stat gives you MP because the way it works with mages
• STR does not give you HP the way INT gives you MP for mages
• HP does not give you STR
• MP does not give you INT

So Again, bloodwash is adding points into it and not washing it out, if you wash it out its not bloodwashing its washing. If you put points in HP/MP and use $bloodwash it shows points in HP/MP because they're in that stat if you take it out and use $bloodwash again the number changes thats washing..

If you level up you get 5 AP points if you put it all into HP or MP thats bloodwash if you reset the points out then its washing, why else would $bloodwash show it that way.. do your research.

Dude stop, are you 9? Grow up.

 

after so many replies idek how u missed it, and i take it that u literally didn't read my quote to u. so i guess you are the troll here?

ovv obviously knows whats bloodwashing is. he said this

Do you understand the bold lines?
Or maybe you don't understand what does temporary means.

Adding 100 points into HP so he can start HT earlier without proper HP washing.

MP Washing = Add MP, reset MP into stat
HP Washing = Add HP, reset MP into stat

Once again look at the picture -ovv posted:

Does it looks like he's using AP reset to take out MP?
Are you telling me HP Washing = Add HP, reset HP into stat?

Did you read? Or do your research?

You quoted this on -ovv. Did you read his reply to mine? Did you even understand the penality he's talking about? It's not about loss of stat or damage btw.

 

He can just reset -MP +MainStat however many times that he "Bloodwashed" into HP washing it out will be the samething, why reset -HP if the goal to HP washing is HP gain..

Hes mentioning reseting HP with along how Improving MaxHP Increase for Warrior and Improve MaxHP for Brawler, hes mentioning that reseting the HP back out from HP to put into his stat should not grief him out of his stats.

For regular wash yea, but double and triple washing exists, just double wash the missing points that he used into HP that he chugged into.

Yes, it works this way.
Regular wash, not bloodwash when reset*