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Community EPH Thread

Discussion in 'Training' started by Pante, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. SaviorSword
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    How long were each of these tests? I'm quite curious of the NTPQ for sure.
     
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    10 and 3 mins respectively.
     
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    Been a while, so here's another one for GS2

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: EPM 5min [​IMG]
    Map name: GS2
    Party members: None, just myself
    Holy symbol Y/N: No
    Event EXP Y/N: No
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Meditation +20 mAtk

    Took some time to work on another character and came back to card hunt and level on this one. Without Meditation, I have 543 mAtk and able to 2-hit the mobs pretty quickly. Each mob is 500 exp.
     
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    Decided to visit the temple again and see if I could actually keep up similar EPH during prolonged eph tests. Seemed to be going quite well as it includes some looting the expected eph was slightly lower.

    10 minute test
    [​IMG]
    Map name: Time Lane: Road to Oblivion 5
    Party members: 2 (me and HS mule to gain maximum exp, not attacking)
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N

    Also uploaded the 10 min test in case there's ever any aspiring IL mages
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dMm1ZaQ72E

    And to showcase it visually, these are your main casting points

    [​IMG]

    Do note that Jumpdown casting is important to keep up with the tight rotation, this would go for spot #1 & #4

    If you reset spawns and wait for them to spawn before doing the jumpdown cast at #1 then you generally should be able to keep the rotation clean, making use of 3 out of 4 teleporters on the map (highlighted in green)
     
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    Went to this infamous temple I heard a lot about to see if I could grind out some quick exp on my bishop..

    Map name: Sutra Depository 5-6 F
    Party members: 2 (My bishop and my I/L Archmage, attacking on both)
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    And my IL eph to compare, doesn't get that much as most mobs are on the other side since bishop kills too slow
    [​IMG]

    Not the worst considering the level I'd say
     
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    Working on a new character and decided to check out my EPM in GS5. Usually got between 6.5%~7% every 3 minutes.

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:
    [​IMG]
    Map name: Ghost Ship 5
    Type of leech: Solo self leech w/ max HS, HB, MW20, and Bless
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
     
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    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:
    [​IMG]
    Map name: Ghost Ship 2
    Party members: 153 I/L and 153 Bish, both in FM
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y (But only the 10% bonus for having solo HS, no party member in map)
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Coke Pill, mw20, echo, bless for acc, haste pill for haste.

    Not very satisfied about the results here. I guess even with my buffs/gear, the gap between gs2 and lvl 37 is hard to overcome.

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:
    [​IMG]
    Map name: Entrance to Sky Forest
    Party members: 153 I/L and 153 Bish, both in FM
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y (But only the 10% bonus for having solo HS, no party member in map)
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Coke Pill, mw20, bless for acc, haste pill for haste.

    Much more comfortable grind, could keep this up for hours. Will probably stay here until like 45.
    Still debating whether a 2h sword wouldn't be more effective given the range difference.

    Edit: Updated this with Entrance to Sky Forest solo leech numbers.
    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:
    [​IMG]
    Map name: Entrance to Sky Forest
    Party members: lvl 153 Bishop in map
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): not relevant for leech.
     
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    I've been trio self leeching my characters since level 10 and found this thread

    Map name: Ulu Estate III (3)
    Party members: 139 I/L, 101 FP (Leecher 1), 101 (Leecher 2), FP, 103 Priest (Leecher 3), 77 MU+Haste mule
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Meditation, MW10, Haste + MU

    EPM 45 :
    3wayulu3.jpg
     
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    I think I might of found a new meta...

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: [​IMG] (EPM 5)
    Map name: Sutra Depository 5-6F
    Party members: 1 (PoultryWoman) + HS mule (Level 86) = 2 Others in Party
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Coke Pill


    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:[​IMG] (EPM 5)
    Map name: Sutra Depository 5-6F
    Party members: 1 (SaviorSword) + HS mule (Level 86) = 2 Others in Party
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): Coke Pill

    That's an almost Mage-like EPH for me while my friend also gets an insane amount of EXP too! I stay on the gold floor of course, while my friend's at the silver floor mostly to clean up what I hammer. My hypothesis on this much high EPH than the Paladin duo is that I don't have to compete with my partner on who hammers the map, so I get to just hammer the map alone and she's mostly on clean-up duty for the silver floor.
     
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    Map name: Sutra Depository 7 F
    Party members: Me and my HS mule that recieve exp (13x)
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: Y
    Notes: I wanted leveling today, but crashed on core run 2 and no time for other boss, so i decide to move to 7f Coke Pill + Mw 10 + bless i get 199 accuracy, tried to rec epm 3 times and need to move my bs, i want try test with a morning star cause acb got higher range, i am pretty sure it give more exp than this time


    IMG-20221203-WA0086.jpg
     
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    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: [​IMG] (EPM 2)
    Map name: Star Avenue West Section
    Type of leech: Solo self leech with Max HS, MW20, and Max HB
    Event EXP Y/N: N

    6%/2min is pretty fast surprisingly.
     
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    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:[​IMG]
    Map name: Sutra Depository 5-6F
    Party members: [​IMG] (Me as the I/L), big shoutouts to my boy RainemardRainemard for carrying my ass
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): [​IMG] (and meditate, which seems to somehow have expired in this screenshot)
     
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    Actively Attacking
    [​IMG]
    (EPM 20)
    Map name: Encounter with the Buddha
    Party members: solo
    Holy Symbol: yes
    Event EXP: no
    Potions/Buffs: Wizard Elixir, Speed Pill, typical Priest buffs (MG/Invincible/Bless/Summon Dragon)
     
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    I was training my new Islander post-event and wanted to see how well it was. I was already at a high % before I leveled, so I calculated both. I used @epm 3 for both

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: [​IMG]
    Map name: Dangerous Forest: Maple Island
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): GM HS, Bless, HB, and Haste

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: [​IMG]
    Map name: Dangerous Forest: Maple Island
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): GM HS, Bless, HB, and Haste
     
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    Leeching:
    Map name:
    Lower Ascent
    Type of leech: Duo split (with Lv 120 bish and two Lv 68 leechers)
    Event EXP Y/N: N

    EPM 3:
    WR_duo_split_epm3.png

    It seemed to be common consensus that CDs was already better than or at least just as good as WR at 67 so I was going to leave for CDs as soon as I could. After figuring out a slightly different rotation however, I was getting a significantly higher EPH that is comparable with CDs at 71 and that would seem to upset that commonly held assumption so it seems like I'll be staying here for at least a few more levels.
     
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    Leeching:
    Map name:
    Wolf Spider Cavern
    Type of leech: Duo split (with Lv 121 bish and two Lv 77 leechers)
    Event EXP Y/N: N

    EPM 3:
    epm3.png

    Day 2 of realizing that people might just suck at low level leech (and who can really blame them for not wanting to try).
    Had previously thought low 7m was the limit for duo split WS leech but ended up getting this on my first epm test as someone not particularly experienced with WS rotation. Granted, my bish being low level definitely helps but I would still be getting over 8.3m if I were 130.
     
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    Map name: Nest of a dead dragon
    Party members: Bishop and MU mule
    Holy symbol Y/N: Y
    Event EXP Y/N: N

    EPM 3:
    [​IMG]

    Leeching (at 120) duo/trio would net 25m/21.4m.

    Notes: adding a HS mule would probably net 70m eph solo since you get one extra cast per 2 min. Possible to get the extra cast anyways but hard to execute.
     
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    Decieded to use some basket to solo 7f while i leech my fp in party.

    Screenshot of @EPM calculation:
    Map name: 7F
    Party members: macacundaw (my fp of print bellow leeched) Itzleo lv 19x pally (killer)
    Holy symbol Y/N: GM buff (basket)
    Event EXP Y/N: Yes
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): GM Buff (basket)

    Notes: Did a few dpm 3/5 test while i did 1h of 7f solo on my pally as a killer, with the fp in party, both char using basket, mw 20 + basket + normal pally buff, was getting 55-58m eph on pally killer

    IMG-20230224-WA0048.jpg

    Spoiler for meme:
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    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: (EPM 20)
    [​IMG]
    Map name:
    Alcadno Research Institute Lab - Area C-2
    Party members: 0
    Holy symbol Y/N: N
    Event EXP Y/N: Y (10%)
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): warrior pill (+5 att)


    Screenshot of @EPM calculation: (EPM 5)
    [​IMG]
    Map name:
    Alcadno Research Institute Lab - Area A-1
    Party members: 0
    Holy symbol Y/N: N
    Event EXP Y/N: Y (10%)
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): warrior pill (+5 att)
     
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    Map name:
    Zipangu Ninja Castle Hallway (Chunin and Kunoichi)
    Party members: 0
    Holy symbol Y/N: N
    Event EXP Y/N: Y (10%)
    Attack Potions Used (Optional): warrior pill (+5 att)
     
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