Ludibrium Party Quest

Disagreed.
Stage 8 is part of the old-school LPQ experience, and some people (myself included) actually enjoy it. It also serves as a ''block'' to not make LPQ too fast. Without Stage 8, you could cycle through the PQ in like 10-12 minutes and repeating it would level people way too fast. It'd pretty much force people to LPQ for the ''optimal'' 35-50 leveling.

 

It may be part of the old-school experience, but I have to say the JMS method of doing it has totally ruined it for me. I'm level 63 now, so I'm out of the LPQ level range, but between 35 - 51 I never did end up actually grasping how the JMS method worked.

I don't think stage 8 should be removed, but I do think that everybody doing it JMS style makes it pretty unfamiliar towards a lot of players (myself included).
I actually ended up dreading that stage because I had no clue what was going on, and it was almost enough to actually make me not want to LPQ.

I'm not sure if I'm simple minded or what, but I just had a hard time grasping what the heck was going on.

 

I joined this server with zero knowledge of how to JMS; I was a GMS Scania scrub and it wasn't a popular thing back in 2009.
There's plenty of videos that explain how to JMS and how it works; once you ''see'' the pattern, it becomes easy as hell and just makes the stage much faster with a few people who knows how to work it out.
Here's one of them; just think of following the box pattern in a ''pyramid'' instead of following numbers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3rgBXA0pxY

EDIT #2: See post by Soblet

 

but this stage checks that 5 people are remaining before the boss fight,
without it more people could be incouraged to bring their mule chars to fill 1 entier party,
since they dont need to worry about the code stage anymore

instead of changing it we should spread the word of jms style more to make life easier for everyone :3

Ps: maybe add a push function or something so that they go off does numbers when they go afk on one xDD

 

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/lpq-guide-for-scrubs.3903/

This should help you out.

 

Actually a really good guide for Stage 8 in there! Just need to make sure you read the ''Hop'' section at the bottom under KMS, since it's part of how JMS is always done here.

 

This is nostalgia, want to change it? gtfo

 

Just because it's nostalgia doesn't mean we can't change it.

 

Oh, then how about we remove every single hard thing about this game so we can shape it for the better? give me a break.
This game was well known for being hard, and actually required you to do something, LPQ is one of the biggest parts of Nostalgia in this game, if you want to change it go play GMS instead.

 

I'm not in favor of changing LPQ, but that doesn't mean we can't change nostalgia. Even Neckson has made some flaws in their game and i don't mind changing them if it turns out for the better.

 

I agree that there's a lot of ''quality of life'' changes or additions that can be done to the old/nostalgia stuff without messing things up too much or breaking that ''old school'' feeling, but I think that the issue is more the suggestion of completely remove a PQ stage because ''a lot of people don't like it''. Might as well not be playing a v62 Oldschool server if you want to make things faster and easier

 

Yes, i'm not in favor of changing LPQ either.

 

If you know how to do this stage, it turns into 5-10 minutes of talking to your party members. I think this stage is very good for bonding

 

Wow, Chew , that is so true! The sheer number of times I've started random conversations or smacked fellow PQers with my Christmas tree; they're great memories. Thanks for the reminder!

 

Stage 8 is supposed to be a puzzle that takes time to solve. But there's plenty of guides out there to help you figure it out.