Maple Items

In my opinion, they were event items, and they shouldn't have been permanent / that good of an item.

 

I like. Would make it more GMS like.

 

Future events, not default drops, yes mam. Yes. YES! Yeah, I like that. Yes please

 

I would also like them back, here is my input.

1. Nostalgia
Initially these items were dropped from events in old maple, and whenever you regular attacked a monster it said something like "happy maple anniversary". I would like to get the same feeling as I had before, it really added onto the value of the item as a whole. Also I remember things like dexless sins were a HUGE part of old maplestory, it would be a shame if that was completely wiped on a nostalgic competitive v62 server

2. 1x Drop
Even if they were default dropped items, they would still rarely drop. Equips alone rarely drop themselves, so finding above average weapons such as that blue godly maple glory sword would be an incredibly amazing find which would generously reward the hard work and effort put into finding that item.
Also, scrolling them would be rather difficult. What I mean by this is that say that we find a maple item for our class (which would be extremely rare by itself on 1x). We wouldn't mindlessly bomb it with 30's like other servers because this may be one of the few, if not the only maple weapon that we will ever come across. What I am trying to say is that it will be hard to get maple weapons to be as high attack as we imagine them to normally be, since other servers have them in abundance. Realistically, if any of us had a maple item we found in an event or by default drop, we would probably only use 60's and 100's on it.

3. Wouldn't be incredibly unbalanced, everyone would be stronger
Sure I understand how maple weapons give maplers the edge in combat. But maple weapons aren't just for warriors, even if they benefit more than other classes. All classes have access to them, and as such everyone is granted benefits. I'd say that removing maple weapons would make unbalance the classes even more than having them in the game, more in number 4.

4. Limits choices
A huge part about old maple that everyone liked was freedom. Everyone can choose their own path, according to their budget. For example, people can choose between dexless sins, low dex sins, and regular dex sins. People who had more funding had lower dex, and people with less had more dex; people had the freedom to determine the threshold according to their own will. Removing maple weapons would limit everyone to regular dex sins (at least for a really long time, low dex may be viable once people pick up more drops and do z-runs but that would be REALLY later on for a 2x server). Stripping away maple weapons would demolish some classes, including sins especially. For example, sins use LUK to scale with their weapon attack. The formula of {Total luk/Total weapon attack = how much luk would equal one weapon attack} would destroy the potential of rogues. Sure it would be viable to play a regular dex sin. But from my experience from playing 7+ years as a sin, I have come to the conclusion that regular dex sins are practically useless in comparison to other classes. The importance of weapon attack is everything to many classes, and sins are just one example of that.

I know that there are some cons to having maple weapons, but in my opinion the pros outweigh the cons. This is just my input based off of my experience, feel free to discuss your opinions

 

Here's my thought.
Majority of people want maple weapons because they do NOT want to spend quite amount of NX for ap reset.
You are right that maple weapons are not end-game gears for everyone (Except, I think 'YES' for bishop)
After you get Zakum Helm and HTP (I wonder when this will happen though), you should revert your sub stats to your main stats to maximize your damage range.
Nobody would want useless sub stats.

Plus, I think there are people who don't want to change their weapons until they get end-game gear.
Well-scrolled maple weapons can substitute any weapons prior to Lv 100 or 110.
Godly-scrolled maple weapons can be a end-game gear for certain classes. (dexless theif, strless bowman)
Most of people wouldn't get to 140+ level in 2x exp rate server from what I've seen in other low rate private servers.
Implementing maple weapons to Legends would encourage people have a choice of making sub stat less build rather than regular build.

I'm positive regarding this topic.
However, method of distribtuion of maple items would be a key for Legends.
It shouldn't be easy to get them, nor hard to get them. (Some people may argue about this, but this is my opinion)

 

I thought there were little mushroom weapons of some kind that are lukless

 

But, maple weapons give you hp.

 

Oh yeah... oh I never thgouht about that, thank you c:

 

Mainly commenting on Jasper's post.

Regarding nostalgia, Maple Weapons were 1x drop on GMS as well, except only during anniversary events. They also sprout a birthday wish on normal attacks, that makes it even more out-of-context if they dropped everyday for non-birthday reasons.

They may benefit every class evenly, but that should not be the main reason for adding them liberally. This is more of a "lack of con" than a "pro". They are not OP but are still a lot better than weapons near their level.

They do give you more freedom of choice, but ironically if you choose that path you usually stick with bathrobe/weapon all the way.

I'm not saying they should not (edit: typo) be added, but instead simply follow GMS method of distribution.

And regular dex assassins aren't useless (I've played dexless but with 60 base INT, did not feel that poor at all). You can still go lukless with Shinobi Bracer. Anyways, if you like assassins you'll play them whether they are useless or not. If not, you can always pick a better class to play.

 

"If not" meaning if you don't like the class. It may be because you find it useless at regular dex hence/or generally not enjoyable to play.

 

Maple Weapons should definitely be included. The lv 64 ones as well. It was a huge part of v62 and for those who complain about it being broken well... one word: gachapon. As long as gachapon should be included in this server, I dont see a reason why theres no need for lv 64 maple weps. Sure it gives 38 acc, but gachapon basically allows you to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll until you perfect an item. Its always assumed gachapon is what anchors the daily votes.

Id say it should be released periodically for sure. The periodic release is what made that particular season of maple so fun and anticipated. It brings back the "nostalgia".

If you truly want a good challenge, might as well eliminate gachapon, maple weps, all pqs after v55, and lower the rates to 0.5/0.5/0.5.

 

u go 1st

 

Although maple weapons make the game a bit easier, it's also worth mentioning we will be reverting back to original rates when beta is over, making the game a lot harder than it is now. 20x -> 2x Having these reliable assets will ease the players tedious efforts on leveling and farming. I remember back on gMS before bigbang and all the shenanigans hit maple, a friend told me that level 35, 43 and 64 maple weapons are milestones that motivate people to keep going. You don't necessarily have to add it as a drop, it could be obtained from a quest instead. The point is that most people wouldn't prefer it to be only obtainable from a one time event thing as it can really affect the people who join afterwards. It's best that maple weapons are incorporated in the game in a way that everyone can obtain it on equal footing.

 

well i just joined this server and found out that maple weapons are not obtainable, kinda disappointed me a little since the server is going to be pretty hardcore... i for one support that it to be added as a drop

edit: jaikor u are right actually, people like myself look forward to equiping maple items and its probably one of the few reasons its keeping me sane when playing low rate servers,

 

I'm sorry. I'm afraid you did not detect the ever-so-slight sarcasm in that statement. I guess sarcasm over the internet does not exist after all.