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Raven's weapons

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Novaa, Sep 19, 2024.

Which option do you think is the best?

  1. None - keep it the way it is now

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  2. Option 1

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  3. Option 2

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  4. Option 3

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  1. Novaa
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    Novaa Blue Snail

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    3:22 AM
    Novaa
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    As always i want to start off by apologizing for my english and my grammar.

    Anyways back to the topic.
    The raven ninja clan weapon are exclusive items that you can get from cwk exchange quest which is only unlockable by completing 2 of Taggrin quests and the upgrading raven weapons is unlockable by completing all of the 3 quests, The quests themselves are quite hard which makes it worthwhile, Collecting the badges for the exchange quest is also quite tedious since the badges drop rate is pretty low and after collecting all the 50 badges that required for the exchange quest (in my case nightshadow badge) there's still a chance that you will get something you didn't wanted at the first place or getting the raven weapon you didn't wanted and all of that hard work go to waste which is quite depressing not gonna lie.

    So here are few suggestions that i thought of and let me know your honest opinion about it.

    Option 1 :

    Make a custom exchange quest in addition to the 1 we already have which you'll have to collect 100 of each badge (Not including the crimson heart) and exchange it for the raven weapon you'd like to have and for the sake of not resulting in a night raven's claw bargain sale remove completely from the exchange quest the taos and make exclusive for cwkpq bonus exclusive drop (which i think is not necessary since the badges farming process is already tedious).

    Option 2 :

    For each badge exchange, make that you'll have the chance for only 1 raven weapon instead of different raven weapons (sorry having trouble to phrase that so i'll just write the example of what i meant.)
    According to hidden street by exchanging 50 nightshadow badges you'll have the chance of getting 3 different raven weapons, Raven's Claw, Raven's Beak and Raven's wing (which i'm pursing for.) So basically what i meant is :

    For 50 windraider badges you'll have the chance of getting Raven's eye or random item from the exchange poll. (Keep it the way it is)

    For 50 stormbreaker badges you'll have the chance of getting Raven's beak or random item from the exchange poll. (Keep it the way it is)

    For 50 nightshadow badges you'll have the chance of getting Raven's claw or random item from the exchange poll. (Remove Raven's Sword & Raven's Dagger from the poll)

    For 50 firebrand badges you'll have the chance of getting Raven's wing or random item from the exchange poll. (Add Raven's Sword to the poll)

    Option 3 :

    Slightly decrease the number of badges for the exchange from 50 to like 35 i think? makes the farming process less tedious and less depressing for not getting the item you wanted.

    Thank you for your time and hopefully the staff will carefully will consider it.
    Let me know your honest thoughts about it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2024
  2. Tarnished
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    Tarnished Mr. Anchor

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    Personally I’d rather see these weapons tuned to fill an archetype, I think it’s cool that they’re hard to acquire but they serve no purpose other than looking cool.

    NL doesn’t have any negatives associated with weapon choice other than cost, but for Warrior, weapon speed and DEX requirement are a big deal (Warriors don’t build for DEX, because it’s not required on regular gear)

    I know DK is an oddjob at this point, but there are zero SI-less spears in the game. Feels odd to keep flogging a dead horse, when even BW users have Fast(4)
     
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  3. Jaewonnie
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    Jaewonnie Wolfspider

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    8:22 PM
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    Yeah I'd rather see them buffed to be on par with dragon weapons. At least the upgraded raven gear.
     
  4. RemiIia
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    RemiIia Nightshadow

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    just keep the stats the same for all raven's weapon.
    increase the slot to 8 total slots across all raven's weapon.
     
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  5. Tarnished
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    Tarnished Mr. Anchor

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    I was thinking more along the lines of like:

    • NR Wing: Increase Attack Speed from 5 -> 4, remove DEX requirement, reduce base Weapon Attack. It won't be a bossing weapon, but it could become a high level farming weapon for stuff you can't 1-hit with Lionheart / Red Katana. Not to mention Lionheart actually has shorter range than standard 2H swords
    • NR Eye: Same story. Increase Attack Speed, make STR req match other lv.90 XBows, decrease weapon attack. MMs can finally Pirate Pin without SI
    • NR Claw: Already in a good state because it's a NL weapon so of course it is
    • Crimson Arclancer: Increase Attack Speed from 5 -> 4, decrease STR requirement to match Nisrock, decrease weapon attack. Weapon Speed is a big deal when using mobbing skills as BM. This weapon is actually pretty useful even at Fast(5), but that extra STR requirement makes no sense
    • Crimson Arcglaive: Same story, high DEX requirement yet is still only Fast (5). Maybe it's good for STR Mages or something but it is not a good weapon for STR DKs
    • Some Kind of Spear: There is no Fast(4) spear in the game. Not only is Crusher naturally slower than Brandish, you also need to drag around SI to farm cleave maps like ML5, unless you're just down to kill like 10% fewer things than a Hero, who is already not killing things that fast.
    • etc
    Basically I wouldn't want Raven items to power creep our equip options, but rather they should enable 'alternative' playstyles

    Running around on a single client farming stuff with an attacker was a pretty big part of GMS and the whole character-building fantasy. I think it's a shame our sandbox actively discourages it. The Raven weapons as they are now ask players to commit to a suboptimal stat build just to use a weapon that's still gimped for its primary purpose - attacking faster. I don't see the need for all these negatives, they are already lower DPM.

    Mages/Thieves have 0 tradeoffs other than cost when choosing a weapon, and this makes it so that any Warrior/Archer weapon that has "flavor" is actually just bad.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2024
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  6. LeonardoJF
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    LeonardoJF Horntail

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    I believe that some rework, especially on the wand/staff (I don't remember what it is now), would be cool, on the other weapons too.
     

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