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The Boss-Chair System - harming the community.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Oddin, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Oddin
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    First I would like to ask one of the GMS to make an organized list of which bosses drop what chairs,that would be awesome.


    But to the real topic,i feel like because of the new boss-chair system many new players find themselves struggling with killing bosses because high level players "kill steal" them for a chair drop. i'm hunting bosses for chairs aswell and everytime there's a new player trying to kill the boss i offer help (with inviting to a party) which will benefit us both. NOT all players are doing this,instead most of them are just killing and ignoring the lower-level guys. (which makes a bad impression of the community especially to a new player.)

    My suggestion is: since there is a new channel (6),in the next patch make the bosses that spawn at this channel to have no chairs as a drop. i believe it will solve the problem,if its not possible we will try to think of another solution,i'm sure that we can find one as a community.

    cheers!
     
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    There are already high level characters who kill steal for scrolls and equipment drops. Chairs or no chairs, I doubt it makes a huge difference.
     
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    xNivx Headless Horseman

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    Even before the chair-hunting people killed bosses for equipments and scrolls..
    I don't think there will be much of a change, and besides, the boss chair system is one of the dope ideas here on the server.
     
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    Obviously,im not saying disable it at all,just remove it from a certain channel to help the community. also i do agree that it happened before but i think it increased ALOT with the chairs
     
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    I would still kill those certain channels that dont drop chairs as i'm passing by. o-o
     
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    You have a problem with players that have higher DPS "stealing" your chairs, and your solution is a channel with bosses that don't drop chairs at all?

    How does that help you get a chair? And how is all this hubbub about chairs harming the community?

    I think it is true that many bossers can have quite an elitist attitude. Even if you come and spend your time and mesos on a boss run, unless you're the top DPS or some other class critical for supporting the run, you're a third wheel and only getting "free" stuff. I don't know how the community could even be fixed in this regard.

    But I do think it would be a simple enough fix if the chairs were made tradeable.
     
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    Id camp every ch and farm chairs
     
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    I don't actually know how you came up with this,i said that high level players steal the bosses from NEW PLAYERS (for quest purposes) if it was stealing chairs from eachother i wouldn't bother making a thread,lmao.
     
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    Kimmy Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    Trust me on this but people hunted bosses (for scrolls, items) way before these were added
     
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    Maybe we can include a portal somewhere in the map so that those doing the quest can kill the boss? It doesn't have to drop anything apart from whatever quest item there is. You can also limit entry to only if the quest is active.

    Just a suggestion though, I'm actually perfectly fine with the way things are now. The people camping the bosses won't touch them if the map owner belongs to you (and if they do you can always report them), so it's all on you to get the spawns you want.
     
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    I was myself a boss hunter before for the equips, so the killing wouldn't get resolved.

    But i agree at least on one boss. Maybe the hardest one is Manon, considering is already needed for job adv, and for entering HT, adding the chair might add some pain (at least for those who reached lvl120 and are hyped about 4th job). The rest are quite good and honestly, long ago before the chairs i had to camp bosses to get my quests done. Maybe is just a matter of time until ppl gets more chairs, who knows.

    And about the drop list, some ppl still think that every boss needs to drop a chair, and that is not true, and this will lead on ppl killing everything anyway. But in the end, if you look at the names of the chairs, the drops are quite obvious sometimes, so it's staff choice to add the list if they want to, to clarify for the newst players maybe.

    (i need to agree on the fact that, even adding a non-chair channel, when you start a boss rush, you purge everything anyway, so that won't help i think)
     
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    This is what we need :)
     
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    lol, sorry, I was thinking stuff along the lines of horntail and zakum chairs. Oh, and lord pirate chairs.

    I didn't know other bosses out on open maps dropped chairs as well. Anyway, yeah, people killing ALL bosses has always been an annoying occurrence here. As others have said, it's best to check @mapowner, kindly tell said high level player it's your map, then report them if they still steal the boss from you.

    Still, making one channel where all appealing drops (or even mesos and exp!) just for less likelihood someone wants to KS you seems... kinda stupid. Would be best to work it out in another way.
     
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    is there a guide about hunting chairs from bosses? I can't find a relevant thread
     
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    Just increase the respawn times random value (10%? atm) to something like 50%-75%, stopping people from timing boss kills and giving others a fairer shot at encountering a boss.
     
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    This - L>for boss-chair guide
     
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    If respawn times are increased then people might farm it all day long and never leave lol

    @MapOwner is the ideal solution.
     
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    I think they meant to make the respawn times more flexible, rather than making the bosses respawn more often.
     

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