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The Soul Arrow Lie

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by theKatia, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. theKatia
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    theKatia Capt. Latanica

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    TIL 10WA of my weapon was fake.
    10 weapon attack. It's like your steely secretly being a subi, or your ilbi secretly being a wolby.

    I have been playing for 2.5 years and I did not know that using Soul Arrow nullifies arrow attack, i.e., the +4 from red/diamond arrows or in my case, the +10 from snowballs. Now, this would have been fine, and I had probably even originally expected this, except that when I tested this and applied soul arrow my damage range did not drop.
    I had thought this was a fair balance to thieves basically being able to buy good stars once for the rest of their lives.

    This seems to go unnoticed not only by me but also by basically anyone who didn't play a ranger on original GMS or has heared about it by some very lucky chance. It's quite impactful on gameplay especially in higher levels, and explains a lot in retrospect. ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT THIS BE WRITTEN SOMEWHERE!

    It may not be easy to change the damage shown but it should at least be in the skill description or in a mapletip or on the front page of the website for all I care.

    I also second the suggestion I found from last winter when I was fact checking this:
    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/increase-the-stack-of-arrows.24325/#post-177428

    I do not make threads often but this bothers me to no end, thank you.
     
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    soul arrow is +1 att, even tho after 3rd job all skills looks like soul arrow is implemented, I still like it how they separate skills animations at 1st job between soul arrow and normal arrow. Seem like neckson ran out of budget that time to finish ranger and bowmaster skills. (Samething to xbow)
     
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    i could've sworn i mentioned that soul arrow doesn't stack with diamond/red arrows before (but maybe it was someone else?)

    but yeah i agree, it should be mentioned somewhere! i had to find out via asking around to double check and double checking my own dpm. it was a thing in gms, not a thing here.
     
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    Part of me wonders if this is intentional. I agree it should be listed somewhere, I'm getting confused just reading this thread. The damage bonus from using diamond arrows is not insignificant, nor are they cheap. Would be useful to know that it doesn't stack without having to poke around for it.

    Also, throwback to the days on GMS when I would forget to buff soul arrow and use up the 1 diamond arrow in my inventory ;_;
     
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    I had mentioned this before, and I was "Disagreed" with by people...only to be told that I should already KNOW that Soul Arrow removes the Diamond Arrow bonus.
     
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    PotatoCider Slime

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    Aww that's rude of them...nobody should be told that they should already KNOW anything. Nobody knows everything, that's what questions are for!
     
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    theKatia Capt. Latanica

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    Has anyone looked into this?
    It seems way more people besides me didn't know about this...
    It really is a quick fix as far as I can see, please don't ignore this. It's a major problem.
     
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    ahotbanana Capt. Latanica Retired Staff

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    I've had a quick look into this and it looks like it just needs a wz edit to change the description.

    The description is held in
    ...\MapleLegends\Data\String\Skill.img > 3101004 > desc

    This could be sorted by just adding "\nAttack bonuses from equipped arrows will not apply while this is active."

    Any chance of this change being made and applied next patch?
     
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    To be fair, in the early years of gms (I think up until 2007 or 2008), soul arrow did not nullify attack bonuses from arrows in your inventory. It was a pretty well known feature among archers and many of us would always carry a few diamond arrows to get that nice attack bonus. That feature was patched out sometime after they released NLC so that soul arrow ignored the arrows in your inventory.
    But yeah, I agree that these minor nuances should be written somewhere. Even this version of the game has a lot of unwritten rules and bugs.
     
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    Soul Arrow had always nullified attack bonus since the earliest days of beta.
     
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    I could be remembering it wrong. Like SA still showed the attack benefit even though the benefit wasn't actually there and they patched it to accurately show attack stats at some later time.
    Are you basing your assessment on an earlier version of the game that you've tested recently? Just curious.
     
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    It's based on my memory, but ever since I started playing (which was like October of 2004), Soul Arrow had always retained the damage bonus from special arrows on the stat screen, but never actually allowed that bonus in practice. Before a certain point the damage numbers you see when you actually hit things would accurately reflect damage without arrow attack bonus, but after that certain point (I don't remember exactly when), the damage number from hitting things would start to lie too. I've tested it on this server a couple weeks back and found that damage from hitting things doesn't lie on ML.
     
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