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C++'s Scroll Price Guide (AVG,STDDEV,MIN,MAX)

Discussion in 'Items & Mesos' started by C++, Jul 31, 2017.

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  1. OP
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    C++ Mushmom

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    Updated. White Scrolls and Chaos Scrolls have been added.
     
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    damiszp Snail

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    Thanks dude! This is awesome!

    The only thing I would have done is doing all tables without images so all can find any scroll quicker with CTRL+F.

    Thanks a lot again!
     
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    There's a Spreadsheet version in the OP. CTRL+F works nicely on there.
     
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    Let me just say thank you SO much, I'm sure a TON of people depend on this list on a daily basis. It must be fairly time consuming on your part to constantly update this. It's very much appreciated, thanks again.
     
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  5. OP
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    C++ Mushmom

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    Hory shyet this is awesome... Thank you very much for your time spent on this <3
     
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    C++ Mushmom

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    Wtf are these chaos and white scroll prices lmfao, 66m chaos??? 85m ws?? What the actual fuck ? OnionF6

    Edit: ws is "reasonable in the sense that 1 out of every 10 ws maybe sells for 85 when ppl are stupid and overpay. But chaos is straight up bullshit lol
     
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    85m white scrolls, 66m chaos

    [​IMG]
     
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    Jase Mixed Golem

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    You guys need to realize that all he does is collect data and present it.
     
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  12. OP
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    C++ Mushmom

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    Updated. Averages and standard deviations are no longer taken over all days due to rapidly fluctuating prices.
     
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    I suggest removing white scrolls and chaos scrolls from this guide as they way you do do prices does not work well with those scrolls. You only use information from scrolls you see in shops but the whitescrolls and in fm and most of the chaos scroll there are all overpriced and that is the reason they are still there.

    Most ws and cs get bought as soon as they are gached or are sold in trade and thus the price you have here is incorrect, I have bought 14 ws in the last 3-4 days for 70-80m so white scroll is no way at an average of 85m+ and lots of people have bought chaos scrolls for 45-50m as well.

    The prices here are misleading and lead to confusion for new players which causes them to raise the price of these scrolls for no reason, since most of them follow this guide religiously.
     
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    C++ Mushmom

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    • There is always the option to negotiate with new players who might not be familiar with the player-to-player trade prices.
    • Scroll prices in shops are almost always higher than scroll prices between player-to-player trades.
    • Even though the prices of White Scroll and Chaos Scroll might be "too high," this is still better than new players not knowing the value of their White Scroll or Chaos Scroll and being taken advantage of by selling for an extremely low price.
    • Players selling a White Scroll or Chaos Scroll in their shops can gain a "competitive edge" against others selling in shops by pricing below the guide price.
    I personally believe that more information is always better than less information, so the White Scroll and Chaos Scroll will stay.
     
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    Guide's like this should be deleted from the forums, why?

    sure it helps new players but it also harms the economy. What happens if there is malicious intent behind the scroll guide, you could easily manipulate people into thinking that certain scroll prices are the price you want it to be. You could make lots of mesos like that. Also in turn if some one with tons of money were to buy out all the scrolls in the market and increase the price, you would update the guide and people would start buying off of this person.

    What kind of precautions are you taking to avoid these problems?

    Edit: not saying you would, but it's not impossible either
     
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    C++ Mushmom

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    You can cross reference the guide prices with the scrolls you see in Free Market, and you can personally take the average of all the scroll prices you collect and verify whether my data collection is correct or not.

    If you're unwilling to do this, then you simply must have a level of trust for the guide.

    I can also share the raw spreadsheet if you'd like.
     
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    FYI, I sold out 20+ claw 60% from goby for 999K each in my shop xD
     
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    White scrolls are starting to sell at 85m LOL
     
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    "Malicious intent" is whispering newbies who gached a ws trying to get it for nothing before they learn the price.
     
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    i can 100% guarantee you if i had enough mesos to buy all ws for "85m" and you turn the ws price from this guide to 100m, i would make a profit
     
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