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C++'s Scroll Price Guide (AVG,STDDEV,MIN,MAX)

Discussion in 'Items & Mesos' started by C++, Jul 31, 2017.

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    Then offer for them. It's supply and demand. If nobody buys them for 85m, they become stagnant and the seller will become impatient and barter. I don't see the issue here.
     
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    Sure I completely understand this, so if i for example put a white scroll in my shop for 110m, he will present it as max price and all the people that follow this religiously will want 110m for there white scrolls. Thus increasing the price, because of this guide.
     
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    You have to realize that scroll prices are set by the players. I do not control the prices.

    When a player prices their scroll according to the guide, they are essentially following the prices of other players.

    If someone buys all of X scroll for a certain amount and decides to sell it for more, then the price guide will reflect that.
     
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    And then if there isn't sufficient enough demand for 110m ws, the price will drop as the sellers get impatient. This free market is self-correcting supply and demand. *There is no problem here*.
     
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    I guess you need to enhance your "data collection techniques" then. You put they were at 85m when the price there were sold at maximum was 80m (with most being 75-78m). Because of this guide, people who obtained white scrolls from gachapon started thinking "oh, my white scroll is worth 85m, the people buying are just lowballing" when it is the buyers who are actually giving legit prices and you are just spiking it up with an unreal price.
    You also mentioned how scrolls get traded for less on regular trade than on merchants, this is true, but there was no way that 85m was the actual average value for the scroll. If you say 85m is the average value, people start trying to sell it for 90 and if they are in a hurry for 80 (when the actual price was 75-78). Your guide influences sellers with wrong data because it considers average price of unsold white scrolls, not the average price of white scrolls, it's as simple as that.

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    Ironic that your guild is called Influence, huh?
     
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    The guide clearly states in the first bullet point that the prices reflect what a scroll is listed for, regardless of whether it sells or not.

    The average value of any scroll in this guide is the average list value.

    No claim is ever made that these prices reflect actual trade value.

    It would be near impossible to accurately collect data for scrolls that are sold from player-to-player, so this is the next-best option.

    If a player has misunderstood the data of the guide, you only need to point out the first bullet point to them.

    If you have trouble selling your scrolls, simply refer users to this specific forum post.
     
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    I think he's having trouble buying scrolls because this guide makes new players think their scrolls are worth more than they are even though it clearly says this is just a record of what's in the FM.
     
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    I feel that you should make this guide around those items that are already sold in the shop. Making a guide for listed prices won't help much.

    Apart from the WS and CS points made by other people above me, I have had a 100% Eye for Acc scroll that I put for 200k and it has not been sold or even offered for in 2 weeks. Please reconsider.
     
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    It would take a long time to assemble a complete guide of all scrolls if I only record sold scrolls, since a majority of scrolls in FM do not sell.

    There are also cases of people selling scrolls for far below what others have listed it for (a magnitude of 10 in some cases), this would make scrolls appear less valuable than most players consider them.

    In your case, 100% Eye for Acc does not sell because people looking to scroll their eye accessory typically look for INT scrolls.
     
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    Think your doing a great job. You are really doing alot of us people that dont have the time to run through FM on a daily basis a big favour. Dont listen to the haters, they just want cheap whitescrolls.

    Thank you:heart::heart:
     
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    Commas have been added to improve readability, as requested by PriyePriye
     
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