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A New Purpose for GPQ

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by lv1crook, Feb 13, 2022.

  1. lv1crook
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    So I was chatting with some buds today and we got to talking about how bad GPQ is. I think it would be good for the server if it was buffed into being viable content especially since summoning sacks aren’t in the PQ now. So I have some suggestions.

    1. Buff Ergoth’s EXP. So his exp is actually comparable in exp:hp ratio to other bosses of his level range. He gets a little less than 1:10, which is around the norm for pap and rav. But there’s also the statues with around 1m HP each, and they all give 0 exp. My suggestion is to give the statues each exp at 1:10 exp:hp ratio, to make the boss more comparable to other bosses of his level range. Additionally, I think ergoth himself should receive an additional exp buff to compensate for the time spent doing the rest of the PQ. So all in all, I am thinking:

    Knight statue A: 90k base exp
    Knight statue B: 90k base exp
    Lion statue A: 100k base exp
    Lion statue B: 100k base exp
    Ergoth: 400k base exp for PQ labor

    Guild members at level 95 can gain exp from the statues as compensation for their participation in the PQ, and level 110 guild members would gain the full exp from killing Ergoth and the statues.

    2. Mastery books aren’t really worth as much as they used to be. Which is why I think the equips in the drop table of other bosses should be added to increase the meso reward. (Maybe coin pouches too if they aren’t already dropped by Ergoth).

    That’s all.

    #MakePQsGreatAgain
     
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    I'm disappointed. I came here intending to flame you, but this is a perfectly reasonable suggestion.
     
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    Yea, gpq definitely feels like it needs a buff, especially after black sacks were removed which was the main reason why some people did it. Would be nice to also have 500 and 750 nx coupons dropping from the bonus stage boxes; they now drop from mobs which make it easy for mages, adding them to gpq would give bossing classes a more efficient way to farm nx so they're not left out.
     
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    Wouldn't be opposed to a drop table with mainly lv70-90 armor equips with white nescheres and concertos as the prized drops, as these weapons still need some serious drop table love.
     
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    i dont know about how to give a suggestion, but boss more hp/exp/stronger/etc is nice, rework the reward for bonus too, also it can be
    lacked for x times in a day
     
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    I’d just like to add, one other change I think would be sensible for GPQ is to make Ergoth holy weak.

    Currently he is holy strong for some reason despite being undead? He is resistant to all other elements, so at the very least he should be holy neutral, not holy strong…
     
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    White Nescheres especially, they got a crazy drop table.
     
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    Shameless bump because someone necroed another GPQ thread today
    FoxNinja
     
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    Honestly looking back at this thread, 800k exp total might be too low, considering ravana which is basically a punching bag that can be consistently cleared quickly gives almost double that at 1.5 million base exp. According to Soblets journal, when they ran solo GPQ it would always take at least 20 minutes to clear.

    With this in consideration, I’m wondering whether or not it would be reasonable to double, triple, or even quadruple the base exp amount I listed originally.

    Thoughts?
     
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    GPQ was never intended to be solo-ed/ duo-ed but rather 6 man minimum and usually net approx 12-13mins per run. I don't mind the exp bump (2x and more buff is too much imo) but it wouldn't allign to the game design or hp to exp ratio. With Ergoth HP and Statues do not come anywhere close to Ravana. Rather than looking at the exp, I would much prefer drop changes and rates than exp for GPQ.

    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/gpq-and-its-importance.5432/
     
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    I also think a drop table buff is in order, but it is not sustainable as the sole reason to run GPQ. In a run of 3-5 people using mules, the splits are going to run very thin. Not to mention if GPQ is to ever become as popular as Ravana or Papulatus are, any value gained from their drops outside of raw NPC meso would be reduced to pennies due to oversupply.

    Still, you could be right that is would be too much to increase it so drastically. I’m just afraid it would not be enough to incentivize people to play it even with the originally suggested changes.
     
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    Unique drops and bonus stage drops? Like maybe some crafting materials or a unique equip that could be a justifiable replacement/alternative to another equip. Shoes maybe? Specific Elemental resistance shoes? Idk I'm just spitballing here.

    Perhaps even promoting guild participation through a guild bonus, for every unique guild member that does GPQ(over the course of several runs), a daily bonus is applied to guild members. Or something along those lines, I don't know.

    Perhaps it could be a low tier bonus? Maybe like a unique Echo or Maple Warrior buff. Each individual clear gives you a 1/30+ unique SP towards something. Nothing extremely fancy, it shouldn't be like 30% of your stats, I think 10% would be a bit too much too. But 5%? Maybe...

    Or maybe rather than it be an overblown stat increase, it could be a bonus that applies an HP increase. Again nothing crazy. 30 or more unique SP to make 2k max. Bring us closer to that threshold but don't make it so people who can't or won't run GPQ feel like they're missing out.
     
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    a bit more exp, a bit better drops
     
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