A thread about crafting, or trying to craft, NRCs

Me leeching has nothing to do with the thread and yet you AGAIN made it the main part of your post. Me arguing pointless posts without substance isn't the point either, but you made it the secondary part of your post. None of these responses even TRIED to refute that obtaining an NRC is harder than obtaining any other endgame weapon. None of these responses even TRIED to refute that the 6 months of Craven spam has ALREADY made low dex sins OP in comparison even though they already were before.

I'm looking for responses that refute those two things, because I think they are un-refutable. I'm not looking for responses that cry about me not having enough time or patience to grind to level 120 in a timely matter. I'm not looking for responses that complain about their weapon also being hard to create when its in the fm often for a price I would buy an NRC for. I'm not looking for responses that say no from an observational standpoint without going any further into the problem.

If no viable responses present themselves, I stand by the opinion that the crafting of NRCs needs some kind of buff.

!!!! The only person in this server who has crafted a large enough amount of NRCs to scroll (that I know of??) has been grounded for playing maple story to much

I DONT WANT TO BE GROUNDED!!! I WANT TO KEEP PLAYING LEGENDS! #NRCS4NIKKI

 

wah wah wah, u petty.

In other news, more shitting up of my thread and still no sound reasoning as to why this weapon should take much longer than others of equal or greater caliber to farm.

Smoke and Mirrors? Those normally come when falsehoods are being presented. I have been nothing but honest and transparent. I am CLEARLY presenting a large crafting inequality that exists within the game and you are CLEARLY attempting to refute that by assuming that it is because I leeched. You want so desperately to be right about your anti leech stand that you are invading my thread about it.

I'll try to explain this really slowly for you lionheart.. the basis for my argument is that every single other endgame weapon item is easier to come across. I do not care about being under powered, I will improve my gear eventually. I care about the inequality problems that make attaining a +20-25 attack Craven/Sleeve/Nisrock/Pinaka/Stonetooth MUCH EASIER than creating a +20-25 Night Raven Claw. That is what this thread is about.

It is not about your fantasies of proving that leech is evil and that faeries will rule the world. Save that shit for ur bbs cultheart

Elemental Wand Part: They were extremely widely available earlier in the game that there is absolutely NO reason to mention them unless you'd like to strengthen my argument

You know damn well I refute every point before making such an all encompassing statement like those. Quit strawmanning, lionheart. Debate team, get gud.

 

Since I can't resist but to let you know you're wrong..

1. I didn't start the attacking in this here thread, and it appears I also haven't ended it
2. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Weeaboo
3. I am not weak, I have a pgc, ilbis, a luke robe, and an average atk wg. All of which I could afford even while buying leech. This thread is strictly stating that the weapon I have (+12 of an average NRC) is less than what the average craven/sleeve user has (+15-25 on an above average craven/sleeve) due to the inequality of accessibility.

I have not ignored any facts in this entire thread. I also do not appreciate your (random as hell) political polarization.

Lionheart

WHERE are you pulling out of your ass that dexless sins are more powerful than low dex sins? Dexless sins are currently LESS powerful than almost any other attacker class with average accessibility to their end game weapon and I have spent the entire thread proving that. Read number #3 18 times before responding to this thread again.

Latte

When the personal attacks are cut out of every post above mine, I will cut them out of mine.

 

Effort was given to refuting every 'point' the opposition made and it was all presented in clear concise english. Look at one of your posts, than look at one of my posts. Come on, silly man. Dun be silly.

 

Read the thread?

1. I wouldn't be opposed to them being a bit harder to get, but as I illustrated with maths, they are a LOT harder to get. 35 hours for an above average one compared to the ability of buying 1-5 a day if you are any other class. And it isn't about getting one. It's about getting at least 20. You could obtain 100 cravens before you obtained 20 NRCs.
2. Elemental Staffs and Wands.. specialty item.. largely available for the bishop class to be OP and 2 hit skeles IMMEDIATELY upon hitting level 130 (?????????????)

 

1. Yes.. if you read the thread you would see that it takes on average 35 hours to farm a good NRC, whereas EVERY OTHER weapon that people use for endgame is obtainable through multiple methods and/or purchasable in the fm. The NRC is not often in the FM.. because its never crafted.. because it takes forever.. AND because it shares an crafting item with Balanced Furys

2. The relevance they share is being the two only statless weapons that can be considered end game. Compared to NRC, the benefits Elemental Wands/Staffs provide are completely OP. Instantly two hitting skeles (thus being able to sell leech for 7m/hr, which is not far off from the price of most clean end game weapons) or MAYBE being able to compete with an average equipped low dex sin if you get lucky, which is more powerful?

We aren't talking about your problems, here. Aside from the fact that pinakas sell for around 10-15m, you could be killing manon, zakum, AND dual birks for one. I understand that you probably have enabling parents that ignore your whining because having the computer raise you is much easier than doing it for themselves, but please don't come into my thread and make it my problem now go run to coffee and tell on me like a good little boy

My buddy comes in from colorado every couple weeks. It is.

I see, that is rather unimpressive. It doesn't mean i'm pulling anything out of my ass, though. +15-25 is what most people are eventually looking for in the endgame weapon range unless they are looking for a perfect. Just because da rng man hates all NLs so far and you are in possession of that knowledge doesn't mean i'm talking out of my ass. It also doesn't mean it should take a level 125 NL 35 hours to farm 1 above average weapon to scroll.

 

So... you're saying, again, that your class has more opportunity to obtain your weapon of choice than mine does? I like you in this thread, you should stay