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Comprehensive Rank Race

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by theKatia, Jan 21, 2020.

Which system do you think best captures character advancement?

  1. Rank Average (Job)

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  2. Rank Average (Sub-Class)

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  3. Rank Average (Overall)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Total Progress (w/deaths)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Total Progress (w/out deaths)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  6. Multiple character average

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  7. Straight up levels and experience

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. theKatia
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    theKatia Capt. Latanica

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    874
    283
    Apr 29, 2017
    Female
    6:23 AM
    Asteracea
    Bowmaster
    130
    Funk
    Had this idea a loooong time ago.

    The idea is that since there are other facets to the game beyond racing up the levels, to determine just how far you've truely come with your character, you take an average of the different rankings...

    I came up with more than one way to do this and people will probably come up with better ones so I will make a list of the measurements we can use to race one another.

    Curious how people compare with me!
    (And also to see what scores a certain guildmate of mine will have >.>)

    The Systems:

    Rank Average (Job): (Job Rank + Quest Rank + Fame Rank + Card Rank) /4
    (ranks where you place against others of your class, the smaller the better)
    (felt like it's fairer to compare by class since some levels are harder for some classes)

    Rank Average (Overall): (All Rank + Quest Rank + Fame Rank + Card Rank) /4
    (ranks where you place against everyone, the smaller the better)

    Total Progress: (Level + Quests + Fame + Cards - Deaths)
    (the bigger the better)

    Variations:
    > Rank Average (sub-class)
    i.e. hunter/crossbowman
    > Total Progress (w/out deaths)
    metagame perspective, fairer across jobs
    > Multiple Characters: average of them all
    reflective of a "player profile"

    Rank Average (Job): 468.25
    (748 + 119 + 213 + 886) / 4

    Rank Average (All): 2248.25
    (7775 + 119 + 213 + 886) / 4

    Total Progress: 2060
    (92 + 884 + 392 + 785 - 93)

    And to show that level isn't everything, here's Hotguy6pack as reference:
    Rank Average (Job/All): 395
    (1 + 1118 + 66) /3 (cards N/A)
    Total Progress: 1305 <--- (I beat him here!)
    (200 + 481 + 666 + 0 - 42)
     
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  2. Zooploop
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    Zooploop Master Chronos

    93
    44
    106
    Aug 15, 2018
    Male
    11:23 PM
    Crusader
    Rank Average (Job): 20.25
    (29 + 4 + 46 + 2) / 4

    Rank Average (Overall): 55.25
    (169 + 4 + 46 + 2) / 4

    Total Progress: 3690
    (188 + 1131 + 787 + 2025 - 436)

    Alot of those deaths were to keep PQin
     
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  3. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

    1,068
    3,677
    464
    Jul 20, 2015
    Male
    Southern California
    8:23 PM
    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    A few of my characters haven't had a chance to collect cards yet, so their rankings are INCREDIBLY skewed.

    White Knight
    Rank Average (Job):
    849.5
    (1577+152+553+1116)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2568.5
    (8453+152+553+1116)/4

    Total Progress: 1792
    (86+855+264+626-39)


    Priest
    Rank Average (Job):
    1363.75
    (3756+199+659+841)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2589.75
    (8660+199+659+841)/4

    Total Progress:
    1952
    (85+837+245+820-35)


    Hermit
    Rank Average (Job):
    795.25
    (1747+142+475+817)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2516.75
    (8633+142+475+817)/4

    Total Progress:
    2018
    (85+864+281+833-45)


    Outlaw
    Rank Average (Job):
    543
    (711+118+498+845)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2560.75
    (8782+118+498+845)/4

    Total Progress:
    2019
    (85+889+286+813-54)


    Ranger
    Rank Average (Job):
    572.75
    (836+123+498+834)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2528.25
    (8658+123+498+834)/4

    Total Progress:
    1998
    (85+879+275+813-54)


    F/P Mage
    Rank Average (Job):
    1374
    (3823+133+649+891)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2622
    (8815+133+649+891)/4

    Total Progress:
    1963
    (85+870+247+784-23)


    Crusader <----- Currently Working On!
    Rank Average (Job): 12150.5
    (1920+399+1283+45000)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 14570.75
    (11601+399+1283+45000)/4

    Total Progress:
    929
    (72+696+164+1-4)


    Sniper
    Rank Average (Job):
    623
    (917+124+507+944)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2749.5
    (9423+124+507+944)/4

    Total Progress:
    2086
    (85+893+282+826)


    Hermit
    Rank Average (Job):
    776.25
    (1765+95+431+814)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2515
    (8720+95+431+814)/4

    Total Progress:
    2077
    (85+910+293+835-46) [@checkstats says I have 910 quests, but the rankings say I have 905]


    Dragon Knight
    Rank Average (Job):
    753.25
    (1591+127+476+819)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2505.25
    (8599+127+476+819)/4

    Total Progress:
    2068
    (86+877+281+832-8)


    Marauder
    Rank Average (Job):
    652.75
    (820+147+567+1077)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 3027.75
    (10320+147+567+1077)/4

    Total Progress:
    2050
    (85+876+276+813)


    I/L Mage
    Rank Average (Job):
    1377
    (3703+193+742+870)/4

    Rank Average (Overall): 2584.25
    (8532+193+742+870)/4

    Total Progress:
    1905
    (86+815+230+796-22)
     
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  4. Ryae
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    Ryae Wolfspider

    568
    1,097
    356
    Apr 17, 2015
    Female
    USA (West Coast)
    8:23 PM
    Ryae
    Night Lord
    138
    Nimbus
    Rank Average (Job): (Job Rank + Quest Rank + Fame Rank + Card Rank) /4
    (1176 + 44 + 249 + 597) / 4 = 516.5

    Rank Average (Overall): (All Rank + Quest Rank + Fame Rank + Card Rank) /4
    (6608 + 44 + 249 + 597) / 4 = 1874.5

    Total Progress: (Level + Quests + Fame + Cards - Deaths)
    103 + 993 + 370 + 1108 - 33 = 2541

    yikes my job screwing me over in the first ranking loool MapleF18
    Thanks, this was really cool to see! :heartbeat:
     
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    postcard Selkie Jr.

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    96
    215
    Aug 17, 2018
    8:23 PM
    Postcard
    Bowmaster
    Vivid
    Rank Average (Job): 161.5
    (23+434+42+146)/4

    Rank Average (All): 212.5
    (228+434+42+146)/4

    Total Progress: 2255 (3253)
    (184+679+807+1583-998)

    but i don't believe dying impedes progress unless you aren't using safety charms. i just die a lot because it's an occupational hazard of being a bowmaster and part of the FOREST PATROL.
     
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  6. Oradious
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    Oradious Mr. Anchor

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    102
    256
    Aug 28, 2018
    Male
    12:23 PM
    Oradious
    F/P Arch Mage, Gunslinger, Buccaneer
    200
    Pasta
    Perhaps one could use the sub-class rank in place of job rank to see how you would rank against others of the same sub-class, since you can filter by that now. For eg, https://maplelegends.com/ranking/hunter for bowmasters.

    Anyhow,

    Rank Avg (Job):
    (286 + 1133 + 1100 + 247) / 4 = 691.5

    Rank Avg (OA):
    (514 + 1133 + 1100 + 247) / 4 = 748.5

    TP:
    174 + 470 + 181 + 1547 - 59 = 2313

    FM: 8 (thanks GMs)
    FM20: 5 (1bil hp zak summoned by Nise)
    To do elin PQ: 4
    Gallos: 3
    GM event: 9
    HT: 8 (1 from prehead)
    CWKPQ: 6
    Anego: 2
    Crow: 2
    Latanica: 2
    ToT quest requirement: 1
    PBPQ (anniversary): 1
    Ulu 2: 1
    Petri: 1
    Griffey: 1
    3-4: 1
    5-6: 1
    Zak: 1
    Ninja castle: 1
    BF: 1
     
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    theKatia
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    theKatia Capt. Latanica

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    Apr 29, 2017
    Female
    6:23 AM
    Asteracea
    Bowmaster
    130
    Funk
    FoxBye Here's the inspiration behind this post. Probably the highest rank average in the game.

    Since cards were introduced late, I would say if you haven't had the chance to collect cards simply omit that rank and divide by 3.
    Also, added a multiple character variation; you could take the average of ALL your characters for an ultimate average.

    Fair point, but I still feel like it's very metagame-y to "use" deaths for things and to use safety charms.
    I put it down as a variation, depends on perspective. I do agree that deathcount is a little unfair on people like us (archers lol), and it looks like a lot of people have issue with it.
    I had in mind a "weighted" system but it seems a little overcomplicated.

    Also, added Oradious's variation.
    And a poll, for fun...
     
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  8. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Jul 20, 2015
    Male
    Southern California
    8:23 PM
    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Nope! I plan on updating this as I go. I just got my F/P to 85 and am now working on my Sniper. It'll be fun watching those numbers drop DRAMATICALLY! lol
     
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  9. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Just getting my Sniper a Tier 1 Ring dropped me 10,000 places.
     
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  10. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Going to Tier 2 only improved my rank by about 1,000. This is definitely a logarithmic decay.
     
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  11. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Now at Tier 3 on my Sniper and improved my rank by 100. I continue on a logarithmic decay progression.
     
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  12. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Tier 4 and my Sniper improved its overall rank by about 50 while my job rank improved by 1. So...the logarithmic decay is beginning to destabilize at this point.
     
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Tier 5 and my Sniper improved its overall rank by about 200 while my job rank improved by 50. This may indicate a turning point in where people stop trying.
     
  14. Annolis
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Moving up to Level 85 having done as many quests as possible improved overall rank by 700 and job rank by 300. Next up is my Marauder...
     
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    Annolis Skelegon

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    Marchilles/Annolis/ Atlan/Katroz/ Chokal/Corvack/Tisif/ Quallo/Crisilixin/Forg/ Nannosh/Tylius
    Crusader, White Knight, Dragon Knight, F/P Mage, I/L Mage, Priest, Ranger, Sniper, Hermit, Chief Bandit, Marauder, Outlaw
    120
    Hood/Agape
    Finished bringing my Marauder to 85. I dropped 11,300 places on the Job Rankings and World Rankings, while increasing total progress by 1100. This might be the last time I update this. LOL
     
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