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DPM Compilation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gurk, Mar 13, 2022.

  1. Paxill
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    PB body dpm 10 on apple/si/se/mw30. Range shown is on pb buff and mw30
    dpm 10 appled.png

    Pretty rare for a run to line up where I should be doing a full apple dpm 20 so I decided a dpm 10 would be a better representation. Good run but I can definitely do better.
     
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    PB DPM20: SE SI MW29 Echo Apple TTKUM
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    MW30 & Furies
    PB on NL is boring
     
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    Personal best HT body DPM thus far (dpm 42). Still lot of room for improvement, but I wanted to record to see how far I can go.

    MW30, HTB, Echo
    1-16 ht dpm 42_MW30 echo htb - Copy.jpg
     
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    still too lazy for content + need to flex dummy dpm w/ mw20 n concentrate
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    PB Statue DPM 30 (Echo, MW20, SE, Apple):
    statue30.PNG

    Bird-last strat.

    PB Body DPM 20 (Echo, MW20, SE, Apple):
    body20.PNG
     
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    PB Statue DPM 25 (Echo, MW30, SE, Apple), Bird Last 2 seds 2 banish 0 death, bad left bird RNG
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    PB Body DPM 20 (Echo, MW30, SE, Apple), range is on PB buff
    goated dpm 20 body.png
     
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    PB Body DPM 20 (Echo, MW30, SI, Apple):
    body dpm20.PNG

    Nothing too special but it's the highest I've gotten without SE.
    Got sed twice.
     
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    DPM 25 bird first. Improvement on statues.
    First DPM 20 since I had two apples going into body.
    MW30 & Furies

    Not really sure how many significant micro-optimizations there are for PB, at least for body phase -- especially if bean is already being controlled well and you don't have to reposition much during uptime.
     
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    HT dpm 42 on HT buff/MW30
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    Still not hitting my goal dpm % efficiency, but a new PB is a new PB :) 1-30 ht dpm_mw30 htb.jpg
     
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    Dummy DPM 1 (Echo, MW20, SE, SI, Cider):
    dpm1.png

    Coolio.
    Still have 20 base int and using a budget overall and T1 ring, i.e. missing about 9 levels' worth of stats.
     
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    On another note, I've lowered the minimum DPM test length for HT from 45 to 42 because apparently none of the HT squads that are too fast for DPM45s want to downsize (as would typically happen at other bosses) and I have retroactively catalogued DPMs from tests that were previously too short.

    Cleavers and bishops should ideally still have their dpm tests be as long as possible so as to not generate inflated numbers. It will also be in the best interests of ranged attackers to do the same so as to maximize their dpms (i.e. include as much time attacking arms as possible).

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    I've actually wondered how much hitting arms inflates ranged DPM. It's entirely possible you kill arms in a single shield and get 0 sed uptime and basically do dummy DPM but it's also entirely possible bishop misses shield causing you to loop into multiple rounds of mass sed (since 2x mass sed allows a significant portion of mass sed CD to tick down). In theory it should be higher but in practice it feels like it often adds a layer of inconsistency that makes DPMs feel less accurate. Arm DPM usually comes down to more RNG and bishop skill rather than attacker skill.
     
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    Could probably just boil that down to "a lot of HT DPM comes down to bishop skill."
    But yeah, I could definitely see a weaker squad getting cucked by the mass seds. I mostly speak to the experience of the runs I join where arms definitely improve overall DPM and mainly just wanted to present the case that everyone shouldn't all of a sudden be dropping down to DPM42s just because of this, especially if it means their dpm test ends quite early as a DPM test is most accurate when it encapsulates all of the fight.

    In the end, most HT DPMs can't really be well compared across runs so it's all an illusion anyways.
     
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    J> weak 6man HT's on DK for my new ~~non~~-inflated DPM42
     
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    That's fair. And agreed that it usually inflates DPM, but I've also had runs where the opposite is true. The worst feeling is when you have a bad LA and your DPM test ends right after crossing to RA.
     
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    CWK Cleave DPM10
    ECHO, MW30, SI, 5min SE, CIDER
    mobs started spawning around 7 mins after i popped @dpm

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    Usually i dont run with se/si,
    and its 2nd time that i run with a shadower (stunner) but this time remmembered to pop dpm 10, the shadower d/c at very end of dpm test but i dont cleaved the imperials, sometime i needed to rush, i tried to use hammer less possible

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    Dummy DPM 1 (Echo, MW20, SE, SI, Cider):
    dpm1.PNG

    I uh, was dumb and didn't know that ship cancelling for octopi was a thing so I redid it for a proper test.
     
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