Horntail’s Left Head Attack: A Necessary Change for Bishop Survival

out of curiosity, why are you doing LH last if you know you dont have enough hp to tank a perfect frame?

 

in both clips 1 and 2 you have mg before the fat dp animation appears. wings do around 4k unbuffed and 11k buffed. with mg and invincible you can jump into wings to get touch damage so you get iframes for when left head is about to cast its magic attack. you had plenty of time to do this in both clips

 

this is a direct solution to your perfect frame problem. Whether or not it’s practical is a whole different story. I think the main issue is that new players that are recently joining the bossing scene are trying to skip steps that every other player who now has characters that are washed went through.

I personally have a bishop that I started the game with and have done close to 300 HT runs with only 3k HP, with 6mans being most of them. Were the they the fastest or more optimized runs? Most likely not, but the runs cleared. Did I die in some the runs? Of course! It’s part of the game. Players today are already at an INSANE advantage with HP challenges.

The expectation of having the game change for your needs is unrealistic and selfish. You should be changing your strategy in order to fit the needs of your run.

 

You have time definitely to rebuff MG in clip 1. Also, you let the Wing power-up buff linger: that's entirely on you. Clip 2 is dicier, but you got the buff off in time: it's definitely possible.

Also, like it's been mentioned above: if you aren't able to live the combo, why are you starting RH first? I do not expect everyone who runs HT to know every detail about the boss, but we've got to be better about knowing why we do what we do.

 

Hope you don't misunderstand my opinion. I'm side of 'skill issue' and also do know that experience/skills can cover it, difference between JKJB and myself is nothing but 'it shouldn't be harsh like that', that's all.

 

Also, because i'm communist sometimes in game, also because I don't mind getting 15x NLs in my 6man run as long as they can do not bad DPM, I wish to strike it out, that standard for bsp shouldn't be that too high (1600 TMA, 6k+ HP), just for others QoL and stability. That's why I'm agreeing on OPs suggestion - to lower bsps standard for resonable stability in HT, being certain classes shouldn't be reason of getting discrimination. honestly, even with lowered standard, bsp players stress is already way more than attackers, thanks for there's no res for him/herself.

Otherwise, I wouldn't mind if we go fair - ask bsps 6m+ vote and 3~10b gearing with 200ish level just to attend 1pty HT run. now, ask attackers same. We all know well - we won't.

I'd ask you back - why only 1 class should be mega carry spec just to attend a contents while others easily get access for it? that's my opinion.

 

in clip one you mged before the dp even took place once you see the animation you have 75% of the entire map to jump into wings before dp even takes place
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We are in the same camp as it regards to Challenge HP Bishops, but only up to a reasonable number (full perfect frame protection would invalidate washing except to the extremes on Mages). Bishops that can HP Wash, though, I'm not.

 

You're spamming before the animation even finishes. The attack starts after the DP ends.

 

I truly disagree with "survivability comes down to RNG". There are multiple different people on the post showing you solutions (wing touch, wyvern shield, even tanking the rock in the left or right corner) but you keep on ignoring them because it doesn't fit your agenda of wanting the change to happen. You asked for solutions and they were given.

If the host of your run doesn't understand how to control the damage being put on the part of the boss that are going to make the run fail, thats a problem in itself. The host can simply ask players to avoid mid head and cross over to right when cancels are up. And if both are then you also have the option of hitting wings. I can guarantee you that you can ABSOLUTELY make sure the LH goes down before any dispel happens

 

simple solution, just attack all heads all time ezpz

 

It has risk of triple dark wyverns, can't recommend on unskilled bsps + need to deliver HS on both side while dealing with 9x wyvern summons from every heads.

I'd magically dc if it happens w/o my agreement.

 

You have time to rebuff MG, but you're spamming throughout the Dispel before it resolves, which cuts your chances of reacting in time because you're mid-animation. If you wait for the resolution, you have a (pretty generous) window to get a buff in: whether it's Invincible or Magic Guard, there is enough time to get to living. The Left Head doesn't start its attack until after the resolution of the DP as well. Your second clip is the one where the window between Dispel and rebuffing is tighter, but you manage it in worse conditions.

 

To be fair, reason why you died on clip #1 was you were lazy for DH'ing wings watk buff, still can't survive if you have less than 6k. that's why 6k is my resonable marginal line.

For myself, surprisingly, wings watk/matk buff has higher priority on DH than arms wdef/mdef. personally, priority is : Wings watk >> Wings matk > RA mdef > LA wdef, because i'm selfish, it's arranged with 'what bothers me most' not others.

I'd do agree that under 6k should have proper access to get 6k (tbh, way more like 5.5k) but clip #1 just shows you weren't DH caring wings watk buff, which is skill issue imo.

Also, you had time to rb in clip #1 aswell. Won't deny you won't even have time for MG if situation goes terrible, but clip #1 is 'failure from skill issue' imo.

 

Yes, you should study animation timings as a Bishop: that's part of the skill. We are talking about controllable aspects of survival, and that is one that is easily fixed if you're even vaguely familiar with what Dispels look like.