Perfect / All 30%'d gear

KSing > Hacking

 

So in other words... it seems we've got many (hopefully all) exploits which utilize free market shops.. but are there any exploits possible with server resets?

I would suggest you painstakingly make sure there are no lapses in account data while a server is in process of shutting down...

 

Navi Thanks for the reply.

As for my own opinion: I for one will continue to be demotivated by this hilarious decision. <3

 

I am in 100% support of Navi and the staff's decision.

I recall a dramatic situation in another server in which a GM permabanned a new player for getting 7X10% scrolls on an equip. The user desperately and repeatedly proclaimed his innocence, and despite no reasonable evidence or proof, he remained banned. After all, how could a new player, a player who had never scrolled anything, try scrolling for the very first time and get an item that was literally 1 in 10,000,000 chance?! Voices of prominent players of the community chimed in, and they all agreed: it was waaaay too good to be true. And so, the player was permanently banned. Not by evidence, not by proof, but based on a great and overwhelming suspicion. And when the player finally gave up trying to defend his innocence, the GM left a final note:

"And for the record, no one -owes- you anything. You have no rights - you dont own it, pay for it, it doesnt belong to you."

And you know what? That GM's right. Every player in nearly every MMORPG is at the complete mercy of the admins. And that's really, really scary. It's scary to know that at any moment, Kim and Navi can just completely erase your character. That the hours and hours you wasted away into the pixels on the screen can be snatched away with a couple of clicks. When you play a private server, you put your full and complete trust in those strangers on the other side of the world who decided to take on the enormous effort of running a private server.

It is decisions like this very thread that makes me trust the MapleLegends Staff. It makes me feel safe sand secure to know that they value evidence over suspicion, that they worry about consistency and setting precedents. Because suspicion, no matter how great and obvious, does not match the certainty of cold, hard proof.

As for the dramatic situation in the other server: the player ended up being completely innocent. There was an odd glitch that made 10%'s work like 100%'s. The admins apologized and offered to let the player keep the equipment. But after that ordeal, the player never returned. Perhaps for him, playing a server in which the admins would ban you without proof was just not worth it.

 

Just wondering, what is the chance of bombing 6 sets of shoes in a row with 30s, cause I managed to do that....

 

mapler ...so what you're saying is, the 7x 10% scrolls still wasn't legit.

That story doesn't change my opinion. The fact that a bug was involved to make 10% work like 100% is proof enough that there's no way he scrolled the item legitimately. See what smart people do when they're running a server is ban hackers first, then investigate later because a hacker can do extreme harm to the server economy. And after they discovered it was due to a bug, they unbanned him. Honestly, I wouldn't have even let him keep the gear. At least they gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he wasn't intentionally exploiting some bug.

1 in 544.. if you mean the shoes were destroyed. Quite an impressive feat. I remember when dark scrolls were more plentiful, I failed like 12 30% scrolls in a row. Honestly makes me think that scrolls were biased against the player. And if that's the case, it only makes these godly items even more unlikely.

 

Welcome to Maple. RNGesus will always be both your friend and enemy; in this case, the server's enemy since it's stopping the staff from making a proper decision. To bring your attention to a case from another server, that however applies here:

Someone made a 26 ATT Pink Gaia Cape on another server. No White Scrolls, only Chaos Scrolls on a 3 ATT clean. This means he had 5 slots to get 3x +5 ATT and 2x +4 ATT. The chances of actually making that was 1/259,280. Was he banned? No. If there's no actual evidence of illegal activities, what can staff do about it? Nothing. You can call it a "hilarious decision" (Aero) all you want, but they can't make a different one. As you said earlier, for every ban you have to have evidence to support it, just like every court order has to be based on sufficient evidence. As much as I do not believe FutureLegend is legit or any of his equips, go ahead and prove him wrong. You can't.

 

So FutureLegend is OJ Simpson Kappa

 

Marty
I call it hilarious based on what I know and saw with my own eyes. I cannot prove what I saw yet I know I saw it. Ive mentioned it to Latte multiple times in the past. That's why I call it hilarious.

 

You're forgetting we're not talking about a single equip here, this guy has a glove, shoes and earrings. Quoting Lionheart again:

 

guys, every scroll has a independent chance of success, that means 30% each time u scroll it. Everybody knows its very difficult to do a godly item. But at least someone prove that was a hack system, the item will continue existing. I agree that the GMs would be more severe at dumping systems, but how?

 

I might have been repeating myself in what i am saying sorry in advance.

some people here are mistaken, each scroll has an independent chance of success, when you scroll something you dont always use all the scrolls in a row on it, people here think he just 30%*5 an item and all worked in a row, did you even consider the possibility that he scrolled once, then failed a bunch of scrolls on other items and then scrolled again? he might have succeded one scroll wich is 30% and then failed some other 30% on other items and then came back and did another 30% on the earings, this way his chances overall in 30% are 30% and he just succeded on the earings and failed on other items. You cant just canculate something if you dont even know how he used his scrolls. Sure he still got to be lucky to pass a 30% because its only a 30% chance, and for him to aim his passed scrolls on the item he wanted is another kind of luck, but the way you people canculate it its wrong, things like this cannot be cancualted unless you know every scroll ingame he used and even then in the future it might balance it back. so there is no way to canculate this kind of thing.
Its like saying oh he passed 4x30% in a row then his next scroll will never succeed because thats a chacne which is 1 in a 411 (or something), thats not true, the chance of him succeding is 30%.

Im not trying to say his not a hacker or anything of the sort, even im a little suspicious, BUT , he might be just lucky.

Some people said that they failed so many scrolls in a row, then what now they are hackers??? just because this guy succeded in scrolling doesnt mean his a hacker. The chance of failing so many scrolls in a row is so damn low, wich might be the same as succeding in a row. But people dont look at the failed scrolls because those people didnt gain anything, but now this person succeded in scrolling which might have been the same chance as failing all the scrolls, and he gained something, people go crazy and they dont even think of people who failed so many, eventually it should balance it out to be 30% of ALL scrolls succeding.

If you take all the 30% scrolls in the server which have passed and which have failed it SHOULD be 30% pass rate eventually, so if a person fails all their 30% scrolls, then it means it should balance itself out and another person can pass all their scrolls.

My main point is, im not saying his legit, im not saying his a hacker, just the only way to prove it is for the staff to look really deep into this case, and people should stop whining because they failed scrolls and he passed them, and let the staff do their work.

 

This isn't how probability works.

 

I think the staff has understood our views on this, someone should probably close this before it becomes even more of a shit storm C: