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Really confused about the HP thresholds

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by ILOVEPOMU, Mar 7, 2023.

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    ILOVEPOMU Red Snail

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    Hi everyone. I've been playing MapleLegends in and out since 2019, and I would say I know the bare basics about how washing works, planning chars and etc.
    I've never reached late game or any bossing content, since my main is lvl 120 (I'm a old noob), so I don't really get the pros and cons of any hp goal. I also don't know how much are classes affected or limited by their hp on any given boss.

    I've been checking several guides here on how much HP should X class have to take part in content, but everyone says a different story and I'm really unmotivated to make any class other than warriors because "I can't wash enough".
    For example, on the alpha thread on hp challenges is stated that shads will have 10k hp clean by lvl 180.
    Blu explains on their guide that:
    "You only need about ~7.5k HP (after gears, before HB) by lvl ~180 to do every single boss in the game"
    "If you'd like to be a hardcore bosser that doesn't require HB for high-level situations like Nameless and Toad, I'd recommend washing to 10k+ HP."


    But even so, I see a lot of replies on the alpha thread talking about how "You shouldn't have any perspective on endgame as a shad doing hp challenges".
    How come??
    10k HP clean is easily 11,5k with HP equips, and that's only if you got the minimum guaranteed.
    At worse case scenario, that is 23k with Meso Guard (w/o HB). That's enough to do anything on PB but touch right? Do shads even need to touch PB? Are there any classes that reasonably need to hug bosses?

    I have the same issue with my bishop. It's my favorite class and I'm sad over people saying that hp challenges hp isn't enough as well. I've been mp washing since lvl 90 and started hp washing on lvl 110 or so. I feel like I shouldn't bother progressing that char anymore because otherwise I would spend all that I been saving (from not buying leech) on MW20 and Genesis only to realize later on that I'm useless since I might die on perfect frame dispel or something.
    I did the math and I will (by double washing on all lvls) reach 3,7k HP clean on lvl 170, but seems like all of that was for nothing since mages get 3,4k HP through the challenge, and that "isn't enough".

    So, yeah, maybe I don't know how to wash and there's something I've been doing wrong ig?
    But is really disheartening to keep bashing my head against the hp bottleneck over and over and not finding a way around it.
    Seems like it's always either getting MW20 at every lvl and godly int equips or voting everyday for 1+year, not playing your character and not doing any damage until late 4th (maybe both?), otherwise no endgame for you.

    Sorry for the long rant. I think mainly my concerns would be:

    • "What classes often need to hug major bosses? What classes don't need to worry about that?"
    • What are the major bosses aren't run often, so new players shouldn't stress over meeting their requirements?
    • "How much, if at all, would your class be limited by using the hp challenge system?

    Thanks for reading this mess.
     
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