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Accepted Remove strong against Lightning on Margana

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by Nightz777, Jan 2, 2022.

Remove: "Strong against Lightning" on Margana

  1. Yes

    25 vote(s)
    83.3%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. Nightz777
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    Nightz777 Game Assistant Staff Member Game Assistant

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    As the title states I'd like to suggest that the "Strong against lightning" is moved to Neutral for CWK boss Margana so it's more in line with the recent balance changes where immunities and strong against was moved to neutral for bosses that had either poison or lightning immunities/strong against.

    This boss is easily overlooked because you shouldn't really have to attack it as an archmage but there's plenty of parties I ran with that have rather weak range and after cleaving you move over to help those out.

    I can't think of any reason why I/L mage should be further cucked by leaving this resistance over their superior counterpart F/P mage. I suppose it's simply overlooked when changing the other bosses.

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  2. RegalStar
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    RegalStar Wolfspider

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    It's there to cuck Paladins, not I/Ls
     
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    As quoted from the balance changes:
    Even if it was put in place to cuck Paladins rather than IL it should still be changed accordingly to support this "new vision" of Maplelegends balance. If this proofs to be a problem then It should probably be getting a "Strong against Poison" to keep FP and IL on the same level imo. (even tho FP would still outright beat IL with 7% dpm dif)
     
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    yurain Capt. Latanica

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    With the current demographic, it might be better to tune IL towards a cleave role instead of a single target role in cwkpq. I only used IL as cleave in >5man cwk, i am basically the extra 5th/6th there having fun with friends. In which case, the resistance really doesn't matter much i feel.

    However in 4 man cwk where things get more serioues (2 cleave 2 range, with AM being a cleave). I strongly doubt a decent AM + a typical warrior cleave is going to finish much ahead of the 2 range. In which I dont think you will have much chance to CL on the mage boss anyway.

    Unless you want to look at making IL actually becoming a viable option as the mage attacker, you pretty much need it to be lightning weak to give IL a chance. Then you run into the problem(?) of Paladins outright destorying it...
     
  5. RegalStar
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    Is the damage decay per target hit for chain lightning hardcoded and difficult to change? I'm thinking that reducing the damage loss (or just removing it altogether...) might be an interesting idea to explore.
     
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    Obviously you should be cleaving in CWK with BigBang as an IL, yet most CWKs I've ran we would clear cleave before range would finish. I am only asking for this niche change out of fairness towards IL archmages and to be in line with all the balance changes made regarding immunities / Strong against for FP and IL mages.

    "Stop the systematic discrimination against the Lightning element in MapleLegends" :^)
     
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    -ovv Skelegon

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    Make cleave bosses in CWK pq weak against lightning. :^)
     
  8. yurain
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    yurain Capt. Latanica

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    I think this would be a much bigger buff for paladin than actual IL though, not sure this would be the right wait to make IL viable in anyway.

    It is obviously that from the past few balance patch, IL are being nerfed hard into the ground. Before the elemental change, IL at least can be said to be better at more bosses than FP. Now they just worse compare to FP thoroughly. Leveling, farming and bossing (other than nib/nameless).

    Sadly majority of the IL doesn't give a shit about any nerfs as long as petri/ulu is not resistance to ice lol. Thus the lack of responses to the rounds of IL nerf.
    Kinda sad for a few of the actual IL attackers who are playing an inferior class now.
     
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    Oh I fully agree, it's not like IL will be able to make much use out of this. To me it's more a principle thing rather than something IL actually needs
     
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    Let's get that Shaolin freeze immunity reversed too.
     
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    Remove strong against Lightning on Margana

    The systemic discrimination against the Lightning element in MapleLegends*

    Fixed the title for you
     
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    So many I keep forgetting
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    Really patting myself on the back for this one
     
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    That makes sense since what got it nerfed at the time was the multiclient capabilities of one single unit of player, which is the norm nowdays for many people
     
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    Kimberly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    Accepted
     
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    This opened me having fun together with IL friends in cwkpq who didn't max BB yet. thanks <3
     
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  16. Kyshies
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    Pally for mage boss now?
     

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