The State of MapleLegends Economy

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Pot management even without access to NLC pots isn't that big of a deal for Osslockers, so players who have access to NLC pots, albeit at higher prices, shouldn't really struggle. Isaac has a point that pot cost increases did cut into the income-expense numbers for things that were already somewhat inefficient EV-wise, but I don't think it's fair to compare EV between hyper-washed/heavily invested, over leveled 6-man groups to underleveled, less efficient 12-man groups.

 

Admitedly I'm newer to the ML server and find the game to be extremely one sided towards end-game capable players. If you can HT/PB/NT life is a cake walk. Running zak everyday -hoping- to actually get coins in a 6man party doesnt pay for shit unless you get extremely lucky on 2x pouches with very good rolls. Hp washing is "oPtIoNaL" yet if you play an unwashed range you won't even have the HP to tank until 170-180+. Hp challenges have no eta whatsoever other than SoonTM

Don't have a mage to self/sell leech? Good luck. Sure the game is designed to be a time sink but it shouldn't take 2 years just to be able to HT at 155 without being 1 shot, or months of grinding/scrolling/zakking to get a half ass decent weapon to get into actual profitable bossing, because a small percentage of players took it upon themselves to buy out the entire market to flip the items for double the cost. I think the balance team/staff have spent so much time creating meso sinks/buffing bosses (ex HT due to multiclienting etc) that it unintentionally had a trickle down effect on the weaker/lower level playerbase. That being said I still enjoy the game, and will keep playing, but when I'm on 5 days straight of zak trying to fund new gear and again get no coins, nothing of value resulting in more more meso lost to pots, it gets old.

 

You don't run 6-man Zak for mesos. You do it for exp which will eventually get you to the aforementioned EV-efficient bossing levels. People weren't always in the position to run boss or multimage. They worked towards building their infrastructure so they can reap the rewards. It's not like they were handed everything on a silver platter.

 

why is your name sweatlord

 

If you can't upgrade your gear you can't get powerful enough to run better bosses to begin with. Its an endless cycle of trying to use raw levels to overcome damage barriers

 

Was my first char on ML and legit couldn't think of a unique name, was kind of a random yolo ign at the time.

 

I think you're overestimating the importance of gear, but feel free to enlighten me with your ideas.

 

Due to being an unwashed bowmaster (first character I made before I found out ML bosses were buffed, players could tank HT @160 on GMS) one of the only profitable bossing content I can do is zak (4+bish mule) or 4-6 cwkpq. To achieve that (pirate pin, raw dpm@zak) and gain respectable amounts of exp I've been trying to upgrade my gear. I can pin pirate its just sloppy right now. Since I'm 15x and can't HT I have no other content that would produce a reliable source of income until 170+ assuming I can tank HT at that point. That being said getting to 17x without the exp from HT makes it seem easier to just quit my BM altogether since its useless until the challenges finally release.

 

You're better off grinding 7F for a few levels in order to bridge that damage gap instead of suffering through content that's not readily accessible to you. That might seem like a brash response, but it's true. You'll also earn mesos here that you can use to upgrade your gear to the standard (14 atk glove, 8 atk cape, +4 bow, etc.)

BMs can solo Papulatus using puppet and are strong at Ravana. Both are bosses that run at a net profit and will probably earn you more mesos than whatever Zak can. JC is also an exp-oriented boss that can generate you some income.

Edit: It's growing more and more apparent that the problem here is not the Maple economy but that new players simply don't know what to do. Farming Jr. Balrogs and hunting 6 man zaks as a form of income/progress is extremely misguided, but if that's all you know to do, your experience and perspective are going to be skewed from reality.

 

7-f is a massive pot burn the few occasions I'vd tried because of the changes they made there id no safe spots to arrow rain, but the rest is fair. Currently the rest of my gear is lacking enough there is cheaper w.att/meso upgrades I've been focusing on

 

This is honestly a pretty big issue. Players who start with a mage have it easy because there's a known meta of selling leech and mage farming that is well-defined and easy to access. Players who start with an attacker have to navigate a constantly changing meta due to various balance changes, map changes, and even just player metagame changes. I didn't even learn about the Pap puppet trick until I was like 16x.

 

The last few balance changes staff has been using the economic data on their end to make adjustments. They have more reliable information than we do, if hoarding and artificial inflation is really a significant economic problem it will be addressed sooner or later

 

i wish that was the case

 

Hi Mirros

This parallel I was making is to showcase the ethos of staff I do want to point out I said, certain staff members. I could not go into detail.. you know why. Can DM you instead.

I think it's worth questioning if it is necessary one reason being if you take a look at the prestige coins they were implemented and it has great potential. Easy to tweak the amount and drop rate I believe from one maintenance to another I actually think tweaking does not need maintenance, the balance team could if allowed by I assume Kimmy change the drop rate of coins for a lot of bosses. This happened to Zakum pouch rate if you remember the smooth stealth nerfing.

If it had to be any it would have to be the balance team, but I like Mirrors idea better with an entirely new team. I don't see how a new, mid, veteran, or elite player would be different in terms of benefit if they admin abuse as a Legends server economist, but what can we do as players? I do think they need people from the elite that has a lot of insight into the issues. It makes sense that they are better to see certain trends and patterns than the casual player just does not. I would just like to have trustworthy a Legends economist and not all talk staff members that do it for prestige.

It might be a good idea if Gachapons were to get removed and prestige coins go up and to have an army of Legends economist ready to tweak the new era/meta the meta where players are actually plaing the game. The thing is we call it Multimagefarming and MultiDKfarming, but at its core it is gachapon farming and I think most players that are farming are tired of this kind of gameplay. I mean my own computer does not seem to like when I have 10 clients up while farming.

some issues with this, I can see already are:
How are new players supposed to get money if not from gachapon and what about the lack of scrolls in the world that won't get farmed.

I mean the title of this post is actually "The State of MapleLegends Echonomy"

 

totally agree with this!
Why are we bound to multifarm or leech when in the end most of the players base do it to get good gear and start boss / end game content.
leech/farm should be the way to get into endgame and you suppose to boss alot more but because bossing is not profitable that much players are stuck on leeching and multifarming.
I'm sure when new players watch legends streams and all he sees are leechers and multifarmers he will be highly discourage to even start playing the game.
Watching streamers play with 5clients does not seem so fun for outsiders
When most of the players are busy hanging on ropes instead of actually playing the game and make it more alive for lower levels.
as long as gachas will give chaos/white scroll this cycle will never end

 

sounds like you're new to MMORPG genre. The game is not meant to be a cakewalk, and for the record HT is not ez.

 

Any type of targeted change will favor those who are capable of adapting while having unintended consequences to others. That's just natural selection at work.

I genuinely believe new players are coming into a state of Legends that's significantly better than in 2021 -- as far as opportunity and play style options goes. Discounting the mass infrastructure farming routes, there seems to be a lot more balance between the various styles of income generating content today than there was two years ago.

 

Agreed, MapleLegends is way better today than it was when I started in 2021. I truly think this is the best version of MapleStory there ever was or will be.