Poison in neo tokyo

arent bosses immune to status effects ?

since i remember thats why paladins thread or warriors crash doesnt work

 

I haven't had a chance to go to Neo Tokyo myself, but from what I have heard, Neo Tokyo doesn't sound like a place for mages in general. All the immunity and strong against xxx stuff. Maybe it was designed intentionally...

Sorry if my commend doesn't make any sense to your "feedback". It came to my mind when I see you talking about immunity.

 

Mages have some pretty minimal use for Neo-Tokyo. Bishops are HS/res as always, Bishops and F/P can cleave the PQ, and I/L are desirable to freeze/cleave the PQ mobs. That's the utility of mages.

Personally it seems as though Neo-Tokyo was designed for attacking classes. It wasn't made with every class in mind, and the mage ults don't seem that effective when the overloads resist everything and the maps seem slightly sparse for real mage farming. Leech isn't viable either because there are flying mobs in almost every map and if you want HS you'd probably have to go back to the tree and re-enter.

Also making any of the bosses weak to an element would make it Pally master race.

 

Use elemental composition / fire demon + elquines.

 

Personally I like when a game doesn't just leave everything open to everyone. It makes each class unique in its pro's and con's and not just another cookie cutter class concept that I see in many other MMO's. It's what makes threads like the "tier list" thread feel weird to me because there are a lot of different reasons to play each class, and really the tier list heavily favors single target DPS rather than look at each class independently for strengths.

That's what I appreciate about MapleLegends, I find it to be good game design especially with the classes being re-balanced with unique options and differing end-game possibilities. If all classes could do everything then it's really only an illusion of choice. It gives way to personal preference in what you choose because some people like to be tanks, or to provide utility, or to be flashy and fun, or to just deal as much damage as possible, or to kill as much stuff as possible. But you can't have everything, so you may end up with lower HP, or lower damage, or lower accuracy, or be shoehorned into 1 element of damage, or have no party skills. I like that concept. I cried a lot as a bishop going into Neo-Tokyo[30k damage lul], but in the end I've had a lot of fun just hanging out with people and enjoying something different. It's some very flavorful content, even if it's taken a little bit for things to get working properly.

 

Totes agree with this! As a hero I've been begging for monsters with a 2x weakness to swords/axes or just straight physical abuse, irl you know that would be a 1HKO. But if we can't have that then people should just chill about mobs not having the chance to get sunburnt or pneumonia

 

The elemental resistance in Neo Tokyo was intentionally designed to make it harder but you don't need to be overly worried about not dealing too much damage in bosses as we as mages shine more in a CC role and this is especially true in Park PQ where AoE is king. Its undeniable though that the poison element got snowballed hard when the flesh enemies became metallic.

Leaving out the robots who are immune to poison, here's some information i'd like to share.

Spoiler: Elemental list for NT bosses

Bergamot B1 - Resistant to Fire, Weak to Lightning, Weak to Ice, Immune to Poison
Bergamot B2 - Weak to Fire, Resistant to Lightning, Resistant to Ice, Immune to Poison
Bergamot B3 - Immune to Poison

Akihabara Dunas - Immune to Poison

Nibelung B1 - Resistant to Fire, Weak to Lightning, Weak to Ice, Immune to Poison
Nibelung B2 - Resistant to Fire, Weak to Lightning, Weak to Ice, Immune to Poison
Nibelung B3 - Resistant to Fire, Weak to Lightning, Weak to Ice, Immune to Poison

Nameless Magic Monster(Or "Beast" if you don't have much time) - Resistant to Ice, Weak to Lightning

Shibuya Dunas - Immune to Poison
Dunas Unit - Immune to Poison

Core Blaze - Immune to Poison, Immune to Holy, Weak to Fire, Weak to Lightning

Royal Guard - Immune to Poison, Immune to Holy
Aufheben - Weak to Ice, Weak to Poison, Immune to Holy

As shown above, while it is true that your poison skills won't have much screen time besides at beast and aufheben, the fire resistance is only found in Bergamot B1 and all of Nibelung's forms so your fire damage output will moreorless remain the same with fire demon.

 

Lets compare firearrow and firedemon for a bit and see how useless firedemon of a skill is in general.

Firearrow


Firedemon

Its like bossing with a 2nd job skill while ur Elquines is on the side attacking once every MapleLegends patch.

Its fair to say that not having paralyze for bosses is an issue for f/p players, especially sinds the 'immune to poison' resistance only really counters paralyze sinds its the only instant attacking poison skill(not counting the poisonmist cast). I always loved going to HT/zak runs with my old guildies and having a few people die along the way. Those kinda things make for great moments, but having the only bossing attack in ur arsenal removed is not something you can play around, its not fun to not be usefull to anyone and it doesn't make for a great experience overall.

- sincerely,
A passionate f/p player

 

Deniz Tillimdead
That was why i acknowledged that the poison element gets a handicap in NT but nothing is stopping one from using other skills in their disposal even if it does not match up with your primary skill.
No doubt you guys are dealing below-average damage but you are still contributing to the overall fight and i do emphasize again that we as mages work best in a CC role rather than in the bosses.

I know that it might not be fair to compare between my time and now but i have had a few F/P friends who went through with this handicap and nonetheless contributed as much as they could.

 

By class i am a Priest here but in the official servers, i am a I/L and F/P Arch Mage respectively who have played Neo Tokyo from the beginning of its release to part 2 of its expansion.
I myself like many others have already went through this stage 8 years ago so i do not see why the players of today would be unable to go through what we had to go through when it is the same content except now with the proper information on how to counter the maps and bosses.

 

There are 2 reasons why i think atleast half the bosses shouldn't be immune to poison in this server. 1: When they buffed ToT in this server i/l had a huge advantage over f/p and made the gap between i/l and f/p bigger once again, eventhough imo i/l and f/p should be able to make up for what the other isn't able to do (look at the fire/icedemon and elquines/ifrit skillquest). i/l has the advantage in using less pots during training and that's for like atleast 60- 80 levels, while f/p can 1hko a bit earlier. I don't think that if you can 1hko earlier you would end up with the same amount of money at the end of all those levels as an i/l. That's why atleast let f/p do some decent bossing to make up for the FACT that we are the worst mages in this server(being able to do the least).

2:

Paralyze is an instant attacking poison, so its not really a 'poison' when its an instant attack. Currently I see paralze more as an acid attack. Most metals aren't resistant to acid and you can see that if you add acid and a teaspoon that the teaspoon would melt. Acid works as a sped up corrosion which affects every machine and metal, hence why I think that if a f/p does a massive acid attack which effects the whole body it should atleast be concidered as a neutral attack to monsters.

I currently see no reason for the server not to make these mobs affected neutrally by paralyze, other than to make the gap between 2 classes that are supposed to help/make up for eachother bigger and to piss off f/p playes to the point where they quit at end-game or just make an i/l. We aren't only being handicapped anymore, it's like this class is being gutted because noone wants to stand up for the inbalance between the 2 mages.

 

Lol if I can poison/stun a pile of stones, what's stopping me from doing the same with a car? If we are to apply that logic, I'm sure a tank would be resistant to lightning or freezing, too in that case.
If we really want i/l and f/p to be at parity in higher levels we would need elemental reset as in the real server.