Mannies, oh why mannies...

Best first sentence ever.

Can u rejoin discord please. I always enjoyed talking to u.

Also where are the streams lately?

Nice post btw, can't disagree with anything.

 

Didn't u have like 3 jobs?

I hope you stay safe buddy!
You're youtube video's inspired me allot!

Consider joining discord, theres a #noleech-nowash channel now, filled with all the cool ppl.

 

The reason cited for this change was that a handful of people were summon farming, events made it OP, and that people spent far too much time here.
Sure it fixed all of these three issues but now warriors at lvl 70-~140 can't earn mesos at a somewhat decent rate.

I mean you can treat the symptoms but what about the core problem i.e. summon farming, balancing the MAIN GAME around events, and some maps simply being vastly superior to others (and that it is impossible to be non-meta in any game; you're simply pushing the meta around).

 

LOL, just returned from a three-month break and found out from my own experience with this nerf, just led me to leave my warrior and start another character.

 

Heres your alternative money maker, also anyone who recommends mannies to a warrior at this point is clearly a moron. From personal experience i can also say the place is hot garbage for exp.

 

They want everyone to make a mage i guess

 

My then levle 78 warrior was getting 4.8m eph in CDs compared to the 5.8h he was getting in kid mannies. So there's that.

 

no offense... but thats kindve on you. just because mannies got nerfed doesnt mean "warriors have no grinding spot now" theres always been alternatives people just wanted the easier/lazier way (of course the drops/mesos was good, but lets be honest how broken was it lol) , This is why people grind at Ghost ship, cuz its easy/lazy when theres alot better/faster spots

 

Please share the faster / better spots than ghost ship 2 for level range of 40-80.

 

Please don't share the faster/better spots on forums. Make people do their own research and share organically within the game community instead. The Legends library is already available for anybody to go and parse through.

 

Dude ... this is a game. I don't understand the obsession some people in this community have for making things as tedious and unpleasant as possible. Mannies was incredible, without a doubt, but the lvls 70 - 120 are also incredible ... incredibly tedious. Without leech and mannies, I wouldn't have gotten to 4th job on my first character simply because of how boring those levels are. No quests, no pq's, relatively slow exp gain at 100+, and all the alternative maps are dominated by leechers.

On top of that, most maps besides mannies simply make you no money. You get just enough to buy pots, but unless you get a few lucky gachas you probably aren't going to buy any equips or scrolls for them. It's a pretty demoralizing phase of the maple journey, so to speak. The game's already hard enough, most people quit after 120 or even before then, so I'm not sure why we must make it even more insufferable.

 

Hallelujah

 

Welcome to nostalgia. Maplestory back then was tedious, and you're playing with 2x exp.

 

There was also plenty of 4x with the NX 2x during 2x exp events. Multiplied into HS.. just saying.

 

True, but these happened rarely during short periods of time. For example, they maybe hosted like 1 4hr session once in a while. If you count the bonus exp from events, and multiply it over the long period of time that events are available, I would say that maplelegends more than matches it.

 

It's called improving on a formula. AP resets also cost real money, yet Maplelegends uses vote nx instead. V62 was also host to numerous bugs and balance issues, and yet we're fixing those so all the classes are equally viable. I also don't remember leeching/ap resets/hp washing as being all that nostalgic either, since the vast majority of us never did either, and yet both are core aspects of ML.

Nostalgia is just a quick explanation for why people find maplestory v62 fun. Nobody plays a game just because it's nostalgic; they play because it's enjoyable. If nostalgia was the be all end all for everything, we would still be using dial-up and CRT monitors. 100% nostalgia. Not at all fun.

 

I find plenty of new people doing quests for the nostalgia. The content is available for that.

But as Xydan has pointed nostalgia is not the only core of ML.
It's the people, the community. It's the people I've bonded with that have kept me in the game. How did I bond with these people? Certainly NOT by grinding at non-meta maps or "difficult maps." For me, I bonded with them through boss runs - others by chatting away in the FM.

I am able to do boss runs now because I grinded at meta maps. Grinding is not pleasant at all. I just wanted to get it over and done with. But mannequins made that less tedious with the earring int 10s and the weapon drops as it felt like real progress. We should not be calling players 'lazy' for wanting to go over those phases as soon as possible and saving up for their weapons.

Players who want to take their time and enjoy the content, though the rewards are meager, will do and have done so. I love collecting cards, and that isn't part of the nostalgia content.

Can we please stop pushing for a certain way of playing?

 

I completely agree with you, my first character was a warrior, and this Mannies map was basically my refuge, my place of comfort, lol, I was able to train effectively, while at the same time making enough meso to finance my character. I wanted to make the character I want, instead of focusing on other things that demoralize new players, such as washing or leeching. I do not really like magicians, and people came up to me and told me first to make a magician, why? so that I can sell leech to finance other characters. The point is to make the character I want and have fun with it. Mannies was a map that allowed me to do what I wanted, trying to gain 4th job efficiently, grinding on my own, while others kept telling me to buy leech or make a mage instead. I completely forgot that this server is basically a leech simulation, it has turned into a game without even being near the keyboard and doing something else... While encourgaing others to do the same. Shame!