The State of MapleLegends Economy

That's great. I, too, often drop meso bags in the FM for new players to pick up.

 

Reverse is only cheap for the endgame-capable players. With the most recent "FM buyout" a reverse weapon PoT cost alone is 135m+ with total crafting price likely being 145-155m depending on what items you already have/need to buy etc. To spend 155m on a nerfed down version of the original weapons, just to gamble your chances at scrolling is brutal. My first reverse engaw crafted the lowest possible attack, so without 30%'s and risking blowing it up its very hard to get a decent w.att. I feel like the average playerbase likely can't even afford this kind of crafting+scrolling hence why you rarely see players running this kind of gear.

The fact that the balance team also nerfed the weapons for "NT vs reverse/timeless balancing" is a slap in the face when the investment is already so massive compared to NT weapons.

 

I thought you cannot loot meso bags.

 

Can't tell if serious suggestion or sarcasm.

The reason I chose to stick with maplelegends over other servers I tried is due to the amazingly friendly and wholesome community I experienced when I was a noob. A rando saw that im new and lost in ellinia and gave me 5mil to buy pots to afford magic claw in slime tree (cus thats the only noob training spot i knew from the old days). I was so touched and had so much trouble chasing him with my 100% speed to fame him lmao. I recall in 2020 fartsy also spending a literal afternoon explaining to me how to HP wash, and MP wash, and answering all my dumb questions while hanging on rope.

Now whenever i see a new player i always spend 10-15 mins to pause what im doing and talk to them and help answer any questions they have, and if they need mesos I also give between 1-5mil to return the kindness I was given (prolly gave away more than 100m+ already). I've become good friends with some that I've helped as well.

 

I stand by my point that PoTs are a luxury and their price does not indicate anything about the overall health of the market.

 

Because this thread feels like a joke.
You can play this game without interacting with the market entirely. There is no such thing as equity in this game when everyone starts from zero and are given the same opportunities to grow.

 

Is there any item you as a player don't have the opportunity to farm yourself? Outside of large party content locked gear like MW30 and FS (and event locked items) there is nothing you can't farm on your own. Sure, the market might allow for more efficient progress with division of labor, but there is no content that you should not be able to farm for yourself. That wouldn't make sense - if someone else can, so can you. This has been talked about over and over again in the past few weeks re: apple prices, so that explains my curtness.

Going by the example you've given, if you are concerned about high PoT costs, go farm them yourself instead of interacting with the market. You're complaining that the conversion rate is getting manipulated when the solution is to ignore the market entirely and farm the resources for yourself. People have already explained that your example of historically low prices shouldn't be seen as the norm. PoT were always ~1m but were brought down in price due to the massive supply increases from multimaging. This is basic economics at work, except we're in a game where everyone's given the same set of opportunities.

This perspective is entitlement. Why is going out and supplying your own desired goods disrespectful to your time and mesos? Why should someone else be in charge of going out and doing the work to farm something when you can do it yourself?

The big irony of all of this is the complaints of merchers manipulating the market when all they're doing is what you are hoping to do - buy goods cheaper. It's hypocritical to expect priority access to cheap goods while gatekeeping the very same goods from someone else. The only thing merchers are guilty of is getting to the items before you.

 

At any given time there’s usually 1 person who owns 100% of the Shadow Claw 20 market, which is required for the most popular class in the game, and yet nobody ever complains about that


Because, surprise surprise, people usually just go farm it themselves

 

For what it’s worth, I’m pretty sure you can go through the entire game without ever scrolling anything. Just buy completed items when people sell them, since their price usually doesn’t fluctuate as much as scroll price. The only things I ever buy currently are apples, power elixirs and coins, and I just save up to buy gear with coins when I find the opportunity.

 

i'm sure a lot of the hoarders nowadays were also multimaging at that time and didn't really buy off the market. at some point demand will meet supply but at what price?

 

There is no such thing as a monopoly in this game when you can produce the goods yourselves. Your anecdote about hunting Jr. Balrog is irrelevant. You picked one of the least effective methods of farming and claiming ineffectiveness and waste of time. Maybe the problem here is a lack of strategy on your part, not the system itself?

If you aren't in a situation where you can farm things efficiently, then continue leveling up and get to a point where your earnings are higher so you can participate in the so-called inflated market. You sound like a person making minimum wage having taken no effort into increasing your earnings, yelling into the void that it's unfair you can't buy a luxury car right now. That's entitlement to something undeserved. Bow 30s are a luxury usually reserved for end game situations. If you want access to items, work towards it. Nothing's stopping you, really.

Like I said, the only thing merchers are guilty of is buying things at a price they believe is reasonable which is what you are also trying to do. It's only a 'problem' to you because they're doing it better than you are.

 

Dimez can you please just sell ur goddamn PoTs so people will stop complaining

 

Yeah everyone dreams of waking up just to setup stores full of nonsense while deciding which item to price gouge. All while attracting the ire of the serfs they look down upon, believing that everyone else would be so opportunistic.

 

How exactly do you think the people with the largest stockpiles of scrolls gather their supply? From mesos inherited by their parents?

 

- karl marx on multimaging.

everybody said many things, but i think we all agree on something !

"older player with immense wealth accrued over several years wakes up and picks out a somewhat rare item to buy and then sit on a stockpile of said item , with the sole purpose of manipulating the market and raise its price artificially, which then makes life poopier for newer players for a certain time until things readjust themselves" is a real phenomenon that happens

people do this and they are able to do that far more effectively than in the original game because its such a small market

i understand that the laissez faire wild capitalist meritocracy folks think if they have mesos to be able to do that.... its their right to engage in antisocial predatory pricing methods... while the peasants should pull themselves up by the bootstraps harder to compensate....

but