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Don't Host Events With An Unannounced Length of Time/Reward

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by bienfu, Dec 23, 2023.

How was this event?

  1. Loved it

    60 vote(s)
    82.2%
  2. Just okay

    8 vote(s)
    11.0%
  3. Waste of time

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  4. This was a massive joke

    4 vote(s)
    5.5%
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  1. bienfu
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    bienfu Pac Pinky

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    I'm sure theres a number of people here who had fun with the recent Maple Invasion Event, but I'm also quite certain there's a shit ton of people who are INFURIATED because the event was frankly... dogshit.

    Imagine hosting an event dragging Maplers around the world for over 2 and a half hours and then when you spam kill/stun them with Auf and Pink Bean and giving players nothing who participated. Not to mention the people LOSING EXP when dying when GMs told them to put away their safety charms and that they wouldn't lose EXP and dying and the hundreds of potions burned for the people who stuck through the whole thing. Well to a lot of people, that's not fun. That's more equivalent to receiving a fat "Fuck You" from the GMs.

    And it really does feel like a giant "Fuck You" because the GMs know that if players knew there would be NO reward for a 2.5 hour event, people wouldn't show up. So frankly it seems that the GMs intentionally chose not to say shit to people just to get them to participate.

    The worst part is, for the final stage in Leafre, the GM called for ALL adventurers. Not people over level 150. All adventurers. You know what that implies? If you were previously unable to participate in the event content up to level 150, you can come to Leafre for the final one. And the only way that makes any sense, is if you get a reward for sticking through to it. So what happens? Those people 120 or 130 or 140 come in and get fucked over and over again on respawn, not even able to touch the enemies, or see what theyre trying to hit, lose EXP, potions, and are just frustrated the entire time.
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    There is a clear (even if unstated) expectation of a reward for many players when they participate in a GM event, they get a reward. JQ event? Finish it. Get a Secret Spell scroll.

    Most people don't have or don't want to spend 2.5 hours to spend on an event. People in Europe are sleeping and those staying up late got fed a giant steamy cup of shit after all this. Other people have obligations, other plans. Other people would rather do OTHER things in MapleLegends than participate in this event if they knew how bad it was. But because even though people didn't know what they were in for, they were still generous enough with their time to participate in the event because they thought they might get something out of it other than rank frustration.

    For other GM events you can tell people whether or not the event may or may not be worth their time given the compensation. For this event, I can tell you that you were 100% better off ignoring it unless youre a masochist. (Inb4 "its just for fun". What's fun for you isn't fun for other people, so don't go telling people they should just enjoy shit. Inb4 "You didn't have to participate" . When you break down that logic, it really is just another way of saying "the event is actually shit")

    You wanna host a Maple Invasion event? Fine. Keep it at an hour. You want to throw in Pink Bean or whatever shitshow? Fine. But don't keep people waiting 2 hours for it and tell them whats coming. You want to *host a 2 and a half hour event*? Fine. At least tell people what they're in for and whether they will get something out of it or not.

    And for fuck's sake, the asshole rushing Pink Bean left and right over and over again in Leafre should forget where their phone is every time they take their eyes off it.

    If I'm being brutally honest, whoever decided this was a good idea should not be allowed to be a GM anymore, because for the first time ever in the many events in any Maple server I have ever participated in, it felt like the GM was telling me to go fuck myself.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2023
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  2. beegoratto
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    I think it’s entirely possible to express feedback to the GMs and tell them what you think they can do better next time in a way that doesn’t come across as a temper tantrum. There’s no reason to emotionally abuse people who tried to do something with good intentions that didn’t pan out as expected.
     
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    Nightz Supervisor Staff Member Supervisor Game Moderator

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    Glad to see you had fun, see you next time!
     
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    Well "temper tantrums" might be an accurate representation of how a good number of people feel about the event.

    And well I did express actionable feedback. Just be transparent. If GMs want to feel bad about themselves after giving what feels like a middle finger to a LOT of people, that's their problem. But at least they have something they can work with.
     
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    The most unprofessional staff member of MapleLegends rears his ugly head again.
     
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  6. fartsy
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    reading through this post you look like you had more fun than the typical jq, grats!
     
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    I wish i was the rush guy
     
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    I hope for your sake and those around you that you aren't too accurate to your feelings in your everyday real life.
     
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    What's the EV of a GM hosted event in town? Anybody know?
     
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  10. beegoratto
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    Mom these pancakes are DOGSHIT

    You should never be allowed to ever cook again
     
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    Chef, you intentionally fed a vegetarian a meal with meat-based sauce.

    You should never be allowed to cook for others again.
     
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    GM Event scandal of December 22nd, 2023
     
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    Anyways, here is a bit of a recap of how negative of an experience this was for a lot of people. Imagine what theyre saying in party or guild/alliance chat.
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    This event was epic.

    Based Abagnale.

    [​IMG]
     
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    this post is giving me extreme LowTierGod vibes
     
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    Thank you for taking the time to participate in today's event. The overarching objective of this gathering is to introduce a refreshing perspective and explore innovative elements. Should the playerbase anticipate future incentives for events of this nature, we are committed to restructuring our reward system for enhanced transparency.

    It is essential to note that in the case of most Game Master events, such as Ola Ola, Fitness, Coconut, and others, a NX reward will be allocated to the top three participants or the victorious team. However, the Monster Invasion event diverges from this norm, as it involves the utilization of local town maps and necessitates additional manual efforts on our part.

    We have received a few reports of players purportedly experiencing an experience point loss during the fourth location. Please do not hesitate to reach out to us via the @gm channel for prompt and dedicated assistance.
     
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    Thank you for being professional about this.

    I hope to see the Monster Invasion event improved in the future
     
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