Another potential way to move income generation from farming to bossing

It's extremely tiring as a casual player to see change after change, that ends up dwindling my personal game experience, in attempts to solve multi client issues.

 

i think something like it can work!

 

I do agree with this statement.

As long as gach is able to produce P.coins through WS/CS pulls, farming will always have an edge over bossing. The issue with farming vs bossing is that if we compare the two, farming is able to do most things consistently whilst bossing cannot. We can compare the two by listing what each can provide:

Farming:

• Meso production
• Gach production (produces scrolls, equips and p. coins from CS/WS)
• NX production (one of two methods, and this being the superior method)
• Scroll production (almost all scrolls are able to be farmed directly from farming)
• EXP (depending on map, the EXP can be good or mediocre)

Bossing:

• Scroll production (a select few scrolls are directly droppable from bosses exclusively such as GFA30/GFMA30)
• Mastery Books (one of the main reasons bosses are done as some books are exclusive to these bosses)
• Endgame equipment (FS/Timeless/NT weapons are a big reason to keep running these bosses)
• P. Coin Production
• EXP (bossing provides good exp throughout all stages of the game)

Since we listed the two, we can compare why farming triumphs bossing 9/10 times. While farming, you are able to consistently produce an amount of gachapon, scrolls (if applicable), NX, EXP and meso which all progresses your character in possibly every way you'd imagine. It accelerates washing, gets you lvls, produce stuff to sell/use and make money to buy stuff from people. However with bossing, you waste an amount of time to maybe get coins, scrolls, or the big-ticket items such FS/MW20/MW30 etc. That's usually a feeling players don't like to experience as it feels that you spent a lot of time for a reward, but you ended up with air.

The fix to even out the disparity between farming's consistency and bossing's inconsistencies is to do what Ainz said in this suggestion, by removing CS/WS from gachapon and buffing bossing. Though I disagree with the rare gach being removed from mobs, I think a simpler and more practical solution is to increase the drop rates of pouches across the board along with their quantity. Another way is to create a floor of bosses that drop Mysterious Pouch 2/3/4 to have a guaranteed drop of Mysterious Pouches 1/2/3 as a guaranteed drop as well to increase the coin production of bossing as farming no longer produces coins.

Thank you for hearin me out, prob long block of unreadable text so I commend you for being able to read through it.

tl;dr make bossing the only method to obtain P. coins to give bossing a purpose over farming.

 

This is the only coin pumping I can get behind! I wouldn't mind having pouch coin values slightly buffed. Esp Pouch 5s current range is just acting as noob tax atm, shoutout -ovv

 

in the case coins are still obtainable via gach, it's better if coins (pouch 1-5) are given instead of the ws/cs to avoid deadweight loss

 

i was thinking the same, like event

 

If the majority of gach value is tied up in ws/cs, is making rare gacha drop from bosses not similar in effectiveness to just making more coins drop, with more RNG? You could effectively accomplish the same thing by increasing coin drop rate I think.

 

One thing that I thought was cool on another server was the "white scroll pieces" that I could get when I killed the expedition bosses, but I don't know how much that would conflict with the p coins

 

that's just a worse form of coins

 

yes, but I'm talking about having both simultaneously

 

you can, but it'll have no unique role on ML so it's probably going to be close to the effect of more coins

 

I think overall some cool ideas here. I think making p coins exclusive to bossing is a good idea to explore, though this would increase the price of p coins.

First, I would like to say that the introduction of p coins in bosses have greatly benefited casual players like me who only do bossing. It made bossing actually profitable, and therefore maplelegends worth playing casually.

I believe p coins induced inflation, because bossers were making meso/p coins at a greater rate than farmers making items/scrolls.

Therefore, I suggest instead of buffing p coin drop rate in bosses, what if we buff item/scroll drop rate from bosses? This would introduce more scrolls/items to the market, reducing inflation and allowing casual players to obtain early-mid game items more easily.

(While I'm wishing I'd also like PQ to drop better loot please.)

 

Right because 300m is a "small" thing. I got a 4 att pgc around level 70-80 and the money I got from that paid for gear im still upgrading away from at 155. Stop nerfing the low level casuals just because we refuse to acknowledge that multi mage farming/mage meta is toxic to the economy.

 

The problem is that balance has revolved around the top-end production value rather than realistic standards. Presumably, this is out of fear of giving certain players unfettered access to production power - which is a valid concern. Personally, I think this is a dumb approach that only serves to keep the average player down -- any nerfs meant to target the top-end player will only affect the average/casual player while the intended targets have the flexibility and innovative wherewithal to transition into other modes of production.

Change impacts most those who are unwilling to make adjustments.

 

Couldnt agree more. Mentioned in the post that was locked it's very very easy for the top tier of players' nerfs to have a equally or larger impact on lower tier players through a trickle down effect.

 

best conclusion about the elite I've seen

 

gach go brrrrrrrr