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Gachapon Ticket for Chairs

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by bae, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. bae
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    I'm sure a good percentage of players love collecting chairs and chilling in the FM and be hoes. Since the Gachapon system is being overhauled soon, it would be nice to have a Gachapon Ticket (perhaps with rather low drop rates) that gives out exclusively chairs with varying odds such as past event chairs that are no longer obtainable (for new players), generic chairs and chairs like Lord Pirate where people above PPQ levels before it was introduced can no longer get.

    Just an idea to promote the grind for quality FM hoeing :)
     
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    The biggest mesos sink I have seen in an other server were chairs from Gachapon where you had to pay mesos for a ticket. The problem with that I have personally is that I believe it de-value the chairs, making them more worthless, compared to now where people show off chairs they got from a specific time period.

    Maybe we can at some point introduce new chairs using this method, but it's not likely already released chairs will.
     
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    You could make the chairs obtained from this gachapon untradable. Then it cant devalue existing, tradable ones.
     
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    While Neckson did indeed use tradable and untradable versions of a chair, I think people don't really care much about that. If more chairs of same type become available, untradable or not, it will still make the value of the tradable ones less.
     
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    I think this is a super cool idea but i do agree with kim that having exclusive past event chairs in the gachapon would upset people (like me :^) )

    But there are hundreds of other chairs that could be easily added to this gach :) would he a great mesos sink
     
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    I agree with not putting currently obtainable chairs into any Gachapon system. Something I like about chairs is that one from events, quests, or bosses tell you something about the person who has them. I just finally got a bunny chair from Deo, and it's great cause when I see somebody else who has it, I look at them and think "This dude fucks with Ariant just like I did!" The same thing goes with event chairs. Or at very least, those tradable event chairs show that somebody hunted down a rare, old collection item. Rather than they bought a ton of tickets and got lucky.

    I do think this system could work out, though, if more chairs were added.
     
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    Also, would it be possible to implement another way to get the Lord Pirate chair? I think for people who were already above Lv100 when boss chairs were introduced, they're unobtainable since the chairs are untradeable.
     
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    Lord Pirate chair is a cash shop item, so you can obtain it on a different character on the same account and transfer it through the shared cash shop storage.
     
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    Creating another character on the same account and getting it to 55 just to get the chair though D:
     
  10. Heartiess
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    It shouldnt be a cs item KimberlyKimberly
     
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    It's not a cash shop item.
     
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    piratechair.PNG

    It has had this functionality since I joined this server. I assumed this was intentional because it allows for people to obtain it from an alt character if they missed getting it.
     
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    Now I can't remember if this was done intentionally or not lol.
     
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  14. Heartiess
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    It was not
    Every chair should be one of a kind and untradable
     
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    Thing is though that this could have been done because the chair was PQ exclusive, and it gave a chance for people that missed it because the chair got released much later to get it. It's not a mistake you can easily make to add a 'cash' node in the .wz files both server and client sided, so I guess I check the logs to refresh my brain. Also, there's many tradable chairs, so that isn't for sure.
     
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    Dont want to sound annoying but im pretty sure that it wasnt on purpose. Some chairs are cs automatically if you check them out by ID (this one was)
     
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    False. A cash item is any item with the 'Cash' node. ID has nothing to do with it.

    Legends:
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    V62:
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    In short, it was made a Cash item by someone (maybe even me) intentionally at some point (likely so people could indeed transfer it between characters that missed PPQ). I just don't quite remember it at this point anymore, since it was likely awhile ago.
     
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  18. Heartiess
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    There were quite a few chairs that were automatically CS items. It is very possible you turned them into cash shop items when chosing donor chairs. However, when the chairs were added to bosses - they were supposed to be all made untradable and one of a kind.

    If people want it to be tradable through cash shop thats fine XD I'm just saying, when it was originally added to the mob it should have been changed
     

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