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Make some scrolls more obtainable

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Armando, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Jan 11, 2018 #1
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    Currently, some scrolls are unobtainable from mobs, for example Knuckle for ATT 30% and Bow for ATT 30%, and the only way you can get them is on some random quests, which aren't repeatable, or using Gachapon/Scroll of Secrets, which are extremely unreliable due to the huge amount of possible rewards. I think it's kind of unfair that some scrolls can be found on mobs (like Claw for ATT 30%), and others can't be found so easily.

    The suggestion is to make every weapon scroll (or maybe even every type of scroll) obtainable by killing monsters or repeatable quests.

    Some scrolls that can't be obtained easily:
    http://poof.ml/?p=use&id=2044804
    http://poof.ml/?p=use&id=2044505

    Farmable scrolls:
    http://poof.ml/?p=use&id=2043305
    http://poof.ml/?p=use&id=2044705

    If there has been any discussion about this in the past, I'd love to read it, tyty!
     
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  2. Jan 11, 2018 #2
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    It's good for some scrolls to be rare. There are scrolls for every weapon available out there, but some types of scrolls (like 30%) are harder to obtain, making them more valuable. There are hunting gach tickets, so it's not like they rely on vote cash. Perhaps it should be balanced across all weapons, but maybe there was a reason some were made slightly more obtainable. Claw scrolls are already worth more than most weapons, for instance.

    Not every scroll should be easily farmable, that's the kind of thinking that sets this server apart and makes it interesting.

    There has already been a discussion about this general topic, with a statement from Kimi saying some scrolls will never be added to monster drops.
     
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    I agree that it is good for scrolls to be rare, and I wouldn't mind if they could only be obtained through long quests or bosses. Also I never said easily farmable, that would be a terrible idea. What made me think about it is the difficulty in finding some scrolls like Knuckler for ATT 30%. A friend owl'd searching for this scroll and there was only 1, priced at 333m. The scroll itself is relatively cheap but there's not enough new scrolls coming in. Another friend used to buy out the market basically every day, so it becomes hard to scroll something if there are literally no scrolls in FM.

    Also, if you could point me to the thread you mentioned, that would be great.
     
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    Re-post of:
    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/30-weapon-scrolls.8230/

    Solution the playerbase got:
    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/hunting-gachapon-tickets.9937/

    Brainstorming part with community:
    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/the-grand-gachapon-thread.6868/
     
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  5. Jan 11, 2018 #5
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    Thanks a lot for the links.
    Correct me if I'm wrong (it is almost 6 am, after all), but was the most voted option just discarded? Or did it got applied for a while?
    Seems like a big part of the community wanted the option to farm scrolls in some way, but that idea just got ignored.
     
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    It was disregarded due to difficulty of having drops being balanced, as well as custom drops being frown upon by some staff members around the time. Basically, picking a map as well as the drops was very difficult with the amount of dark scrolls being available, as well as farming being benefiting for specific jobs.

    Instead what was done was the mob gachapon ticket system, making gachapon global (so people stopped gach at 1 place only), as well as mob gachapon tweaks over the course of time. The goal with that is to get all scrolls puked out into the game, rather just the ones people need (which would happen if they are farmable).

    I can't comment about some dark scrolls still dropping and being farmable, but that's just what Neckson did.
     
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  7. Jan 11, 2018 #7
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    I think the Gachapon system is a pretty good idea, just doesn't fix all the problems. Too bad that the proposed change was disregarded due to the difficulty. Maybe some day that could be looked at again.

    Thanks for all the replies!
     
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