Scaling pirate's "Double Shot" properly

Pretty well known that a gunslingers 1-120 is terrible because their damage is crap

It's a good idea, but the real question is should gunslingers be buffed since their late game is quite good.

 

Keep in mind that double shot is a lot faster than L7 and Double shot Bow

 

Even worse my friend, it does 2x 80% instead of 110%


Notice, though, that the skills itself gets "buffed" at 3rd job when you get burst fire (3x190% at lvl 20) so after lvl 70 you dont use double shot anymore

 

That's because bbb isnt at ver 0.62 but later versions that made some skill changes to balance them. Same happens with rapid fire a skill that is 150% at lvl 30 but got buffed to 170% in later versions.

 

Can't you attack up to 6 mobs doing decent damage with a gun while still using somersault?

 

I don't see much harm in buffing an underpowered skill that helps gunslingers level a bit faster. It's not gamebreaking, methinks, since it becomes obsolete at higher levels.

Besides, gunslingers already face issues with level-locked ammunition. A lvl 10 thief fresh out of Maple Island can use the best stars, but pirates have to wait till they reach much higher levels before they can upgrade their bullets.

 

Maybe we should put level requirements on stars.

 

i know a local expert in somersault kick

Pieter

 

I support this. Also, I think every star besides Hwabis and Furies (Lv 70) does have a level req... bloody level 10 :c (side note: C-Ilbi don't exist in Legends but they're Lv 50 req).

 

That depends; what year of Pokemon are we playing in. Because Skill Link can make any 2-5 hitting move always strike 5 times, and since I think Gen 6 or 5 it has expanded its compatible Pokemon pool. Mega Heracross' hidden ability is Skill Link and that's fun to watch.

 

Even though this can be a reasonable option, it kinda defeats the purpose of playing a gunner (you expect to fire bullets not to whack mobs with a gun)

 

Defeat the purpose? The purpose of any weapon and attack skill is to kill mobs, and this is a very good option, especially considering it hits many mobs, AND you can't fire your gun when monsters are too close!

People always look at the damage numbers of guns and complain, but they simply don't realize the pirates were meant as some kind of weird hybrid class.

 

If there was more evidence about that in later jobs, I would agree with you; I personally don't get that same vibe, looking at gunslinger skills from second to fourth. A lot of it, to me, looks like mobility -> building distance -> sniping. I'm not saying I want focus on being hybrid, as it would take away the point of having a route split, but realistically, not being able to kill things (quickly...sort of? Maybe effectively is the best word here) with your main skills (gun-related ones) and having to rely on SSK just doesn't seem appealing.

It's not so much about buffing the damage to be ridiculous imo as it is about being able to use those skills without being that much lackluster relative to other ranged dps (archers and sins, if you want to include them, mages too... I guess?). But if we want to make this more "balanced," another glaring issue is just the outright weak attack on bullets along with the level restrictions. We talked about level restrictions being implemented on stars earlier in this thread; imo, that would be great if bullets were kept the same but the attack increased for each bullet out there (though not by much).

 

To each his/her/their own, I suppose. As much as killing mobs is the divine purpose of attack skills, I'd like to do so in style. I try to visualise it as Gun Fu, though I acknowledge Diego's point as well. Which is why I support buffing Double Shot a little.

At any rate, maxed Double Shot is equivalent to lv 3 Double Arrow. I guess that's a good enough reason why gunslingers deserve better.

 

Getting through 10-70 as a gunner was rough damage wise (although I didn't realize it at the time), so I 100% support this. Nice to see a lot of new gunners around even with such a crappy attack