Clarification on Mapowner Mechanics

I'm sorry you had this unfortunate encounter. This exact situation is one of the shortcomings with the mapowner system, and most reasonable people wouldn't take advantage of it. Unfortunately during this event, himes is now a 'meta' map to farm the daily etc. Here's last event's discussion when this same issue arose: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/himes-mapowner-level-requirement.35300/

 

The only way to justify yourself right now is to do a video recording of your grind session.

 

Yes unfortunately this is the only thing that may strengthen your case.

If you're on windows 10 press Windows Logo + G (it may take a minute to load) to open up the Game Bar and record your screen.

Alternatively just record with a mobile phone and upload it somewhere so you can share in the report abuse section of the forums: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?forums/report-abuse.90/

To fill you in so far nothing official has been raised but i presume its not because they aren't bothered but its because im sure they're working very hard behind the scenes and whatnot.

It's a bit of a shame but these people do exist so we can only do so much.

 

You can also use other screen recorders like

Fraps - https://fraps.com/download.php

OBS - https://obsproject.com/download

Bandicam - https://www.bandicam.com/downloads/

 

This is just nothing but shame.

I do know it's prohibited to publicize someone so can't ask that guys IGN but honestly, I really hope to know him so I can avoid him.
Well, this servers userpool is so small so we'll meet eventually I assume.

As I mentioned in previous post related with himes mapowner, I strongly hope to lower himes mapowner level requirement.

Added : because of x-mas event, himes map became much more crowded than before. I do hope high lvl players respect low lvl grinders in there, instead of abusing hole of system and grief them. Since they're on stage where you were, and your potential friends in future, PLEASE don't let them feel bad and leave. It's really sad and shameful to see.

 

Just assume that their official response is to not grind maps that you can't get mapowner for. Normally during non-event, himes maps are pretty empty, so this wasn't an issue.

 

I agree, the map requirement is ridiculous for Himes. I had the same unfortunate thing happen where people came in and took ownership from me because I was level 104 at the time. I have been following up with my previous post mentioned in a link above but haven't gotten a response directly. Last I heard from Mirrors is that it was being looked into but the coding for it was not a simple fix.

 

After level 100 I just bought leech and never really "grinded" on my own because of how abusive mapowner is. Can't really even play the game unless you're in a party like a PQ or you're at a lower leveled map.. whats even more annoying is that if you buy leech and the person there loses their mapowner while in a trade for the purchase of a leech..

Ex: Uses Genesis gets issued a trade, accepts trade in trade for about 10 seconds mapownership disappears a player logs into same map kills ONE thing, you lose map.

Its really just poor coding and there needed to be an @mapblock <user> but when I've mentioned that in the past people said "I'll kick the Night Lord in the party and mapblock them in Horntail lul" and had A LOT of dislikes because of it. if someone is in your map and you have mapownership and you use command above it shouldn't be an issue if that person gets attack/magic cancel trying to attack monsters in your map.

But humans are humans and won't accept how good of a mechanic like @mapblock can be and how its uses can be a lifesaver when having a map.

Edit: Reactions don't lie.

 

I'm confused what you even mean. You get 5 minutes of mapowner every time you kill a mob. If a leecher loses mapowner, it's because he d/c'd or was just afk. If a person attacks in your map while you have mapowner, it's already reportable. If you lose mapowner, anyone should be able to claim it. I'm not sure what this command would do. Mapowner is already coded perfectly for it's intended use case, you just have some notable exceptions (himes, anego, levi) on area boss maps.

 

I have thought about this extensively and there is no elegant way to fix it at the moment without overhauling mapowner's core functionalities or doing other difficult coding work. I realize this is an issue that has plagued our issues and it hurts me to see our community behave in such a toxic manner... ;-;

(My own opinion is this post btw - just clarifying I'm not speaking for the entirety of staff)

I don't think mapowner itself is a bad command and has done a lot of good in prevent ks wars break out on the server. It works as intended and you get 5 minutes of leeway if you stop attacking monsters. There may be minor scuffles but it seems to work out for the most part although there could be improvements (such as passing mapowner automatically to a party member when the mapowner leaves).

Unfortunately in this situation the highest level mob (a miniboss) is just TOO high level. I've pondered several possible solutions that won't require a difficult fix but will have to think about the feasibility especially given our developers have a lot to do on their plate and this fix is no small task.

Either way I wanted to say thank you for bringing it up again and that we are actively looking into this. It is my hope that it is fixed for next event. I'm very very sorry about your experience. :[

 

When someone is selling leech they kill something then trade or get traded by someone buying leech, the trade acts as if its its own map and you(or the leech attacker's) mapownership gets removed thus making someone else take the map freely.

That is what I mean.

Ex:
Player A - Kills monster for mapowner
Player B - Trades attacker selling leech (A and B vise-versa)
Player A - Attacker/Leech seller accepts trade mapownership goes away
Player C - Can freely take map due to no mapownership

 

We haven't been able to reproduce this. Can you show a video of this happening so we can fix it?

 

Its random

 

I just tried it in a bunch of configurations and couldn't reproduce. Never heard of this bug

 

The mapowner has 5 mins timer, prob your trade took longer than 5 mins which you will lose mapowner. I never heard this happenes to my friends or me yet. o.o

 

Can’t mapowner be coded to the current highest mob level in the map?

Eg. If crow isn’t spawning, then Himes should be the highest mob in the map.

 

still crow is the highest mob