White scroll

What is your definition of making ws/cs affordable for average player? I don't think anyone is asking for these to be affordable for the average player. I think most people would agree that the sweet spot for WS is 150m and 100m for CS give or take 20m. Even with those prices, on average it would take 1.5b to complete ONE slot. So clearly, 150m is by no means cheap. WS prices 30-40 mill lower than they are now will not magically encourage average players to try for perfect weapons/gloves.

This game is already very grindy, the last thing we need to do is make it even grindier.

 

Those numbers sound good to me, but it would be even better if the staff looked at actual data regarding the economy and made decisions based on that and not speculation. What if ws and cs had their values locked so they couldn't be sold higher or lower than a price that staff decide on? The price isn't going to go up or down so no point of hoarding. No crazy price fluctuations due to expiry dates. Can't try to control prices by buying out the market if price can't change. It would still be used as currency tho as long as there's a meso cap and tax evasion.

 

I'm not saying WS should be tiered down to rare. I'm saying the exchange quest itself should be a easier keep the rarity of WS at legendary but the hope is since by making exchange quest easier more people farming badges->more WS in the market-> value of WS goes down because there's more ws in the market now. Now granted it's not going to happen right away so the WS might even inflate a little before hopefully it decreases in prices as more flood the market.

 

I feel like a better solution to this would be to increase gachapon drop rates a little bit for aoe skills, and significantly for non-aoe skills, and possibly making them drop at a random rate from Zakum, HT and PB.
Apart from increasing the supply of high-value scrolls not limited to ws that people tend to hoard, this could also result in a higher supply of zhelm sellers which would benefit new players that do not have a lot of meso to spare. It could also be an incentive for people to boss instead of printing meso / making a muti-mage.

 

It has been about 1.5 months since the creation of this thread, and it seems that WS are indeed the stocks we all should have bought into even at 200m!

The recent inflation in white scrolls has been wild, I've never seen prices rise this fast before. Perhaps there something else at play beyond meso generation being too high and ws generation being too low.

 

Seems like there is a growing amount of people playing on a mage & multimaging to make meso due to bossing (which is one of the main meso sinks in the game) not being nearly as profitable.
Seems like either a nerf to classes that print meso (nlc % pot nerf?) or a buff to content that contributes to meso sinks could fix this issue. I feel like the main problem is meso not providing as much value for high lvl players compared to ws / cs, and other hard to obtain valuable scrolls from gacha, leading to people hoarding these scrolls cause they're very likely to increase in value due to the ever increasing demand.

 

Born 2 attack, forced 2 mage

 

demand up due to timeless gear becoming more available?

 

mostly cus of people hoarding them for a profit due to low supply / high demand & meso inflation

 

Perhaps it has something to do with this.

 

If I were to hazard a guess, low-level botters seem to be by-passing whatever botting check system staff is currently using. As someone who has reported a few botters over the year, it's apparent that staff also relies on player-based reporting to help clean up the server. Adding mini-dungeons that allow for botters to hide out of public sight just seems like an open invitation for abuse.

Seems to be a lot of RWTing/RWT bans going on these last few months. The question is - who's supplying all the mesos?

 

where's geospiza's webapp that shows total active players? I wonder if player count just tanked after anniversary event and covid restrictions relaxing.

 

how is that selfish? everyone has the same chance of getting a white scroll. those that choose to keep them for whatever reason is their right to. I don't see how that is selfish. thats like saying everyone that has over 24 sets of mtks are selfish and should put some on the market so others can have a set.

 

If you buy out the market because there seems to be no end in sight to the rising prices, that would be considered prudent, not selfish.

The reason most players can safely assume that white scrolls is a safe investment that will not depreciate in value is because their utility will always be relevant in any aspect of the game in any aspect of the server’s lifetime. There is never a time in this game where eliminating risk is not a desired utility.

By saying that people who hoard white scrolls is selfish, you’re making the assumption that there ever is a time where people will not need white scrolls. At what point in time will a player not need them?

 

That's the free-market. The mushroom game was based off the beauty of monopoly and capitalism. Everyone has the same chance and right to buy out the market and maybe sell for higher. There's always a risk in doing so. If I go out of my way to buy out the Market and a week later it Tanks that's the consquence that I have to take. High risk high reward. It's not selfish since anyone can do it.

Not to mention how are you sure that's the intent of those that do hold onto white scrolls. And then at what point do you say oh I'm holding onto this white scroll too long maybe I should put it on the market so someone else can buy it

 

ITT: White Scroll hoarders

While not necessarily rulebreaking to hoard scrolls, lets not delude ourselves into thinking people are buying White Scrolls to actually *use* them. It's an extremely safe storage of vast amounts of meso first and foremost.