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Low Hamstring doesn't work on Ephenia

Discussion in 'Report Bugs' started by Subterlabor, Jul 17, 2024.

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    Description of the bug: (optional screenshot/video): Title
    What is supposed to happen?: Ephenia walk slow
    Where did you find and/or notice this bug?: Fighting Ephenia
    A step-by-step guide to re-producing this bug (optional): Use Hamstring, she walk fast
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    Pretty straight forward, BM in shambles once again

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    Bump this boss is annoying as it is let us use our tools as a bm
     
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    A tip for BM (and perhaps others):
    Fight Ephenia close range. Her hitbox is very narrow (like a toothpick), you can attack her from close range. "Dodge" the stun attack by walking into her (low physical damage).

    This way I'm able to do runs with 0~2 stuns. No puppet or hamstring needed.
     
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    I'm able to fight without much issue, but its a core BM skill that doesn't work, it should be fixed.
     
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    Obviously.
     
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    Bump? Is this intentional or a bug?
     
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    Hamstring does not work on ephenia or pb, both of which happen to share one trait in particular... Similar to other status effects like freeze or poison not working on mobs which resist the element, I wonder if hamstring (and blind, etc) happens to be tied to a "physical/normal" element and is thus blocked by the applied resistance.
     
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    oh thats very interesting

    I was making a conscious effort to hamstring during PB for the pinners sake. I guess my efforts were in vain.

    I'm unsure about the rest, it would be a poor reason to leave Ephenia un-hamstringeable considering it's not a high-tier boss, and hamstring there would be especially useful to have considering her fast movement/inability to be pinned by a BM.
     
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    Copium continues
     
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    Not even a response if this is intended? Cmon now
     
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    get in line!
     
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    multiple balance team people have read this, pretty sure this issue is just gonna get the silent treatment FoxF4
     
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    don't have to be hostile about this, we are simply busy handling other more pressing matters..

    iPippyiPippy hypothesis seems to be right, that Ephenia being resistant to both hamstring and blind is related to the resistance toward neutral/physical, but we haven't look into the code to see what is actually going on..
    heck, I think the more correct reasoning for this is probably due to an oversight when hamstring/blind/threaten is coded to work on boss (remember that these skill changes are ML custom). So, in the neutral resistance case, it may have not been handled properly or simply not handled since the skill changes was done prior to the release of pink bean (which was then became the only mob to have neutral resistance).
    Whether or not to change such behaviour and how to change it is another topic to discuss about.
     
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    This is an interesting spot where pays the question whether hamstring should work on PB, but I don't think there would be any PB buff considering its current state
     
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    Hamstring doesn't appear to work on the fairies ephenia spawns either now that I've returned to this cave of c+b torture. Thus two of BM's skills are completely useless here in their entirety
     
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    We will be looking into this for the coming patch. I won't change the tag yet because a fix is still in the testing phase.
    Thank you!
     
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    I also may have bad luck but perhaps it's worth a look, I don't think I've ever gotten a monster card from Ephenia's fairy spawns? Are you able to confirm whether I just have bad rng or this is indeed the case, the card isn't overly difficult to get if you're on the normal maps so it seems a bit odd
     
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    I just checked to make sure, and the cards are indeed in the drop pool of the summons as well, so it's likely just some unfortunate rng!
     
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