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HP Washing Help App (Companion)

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by Nise, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Nise
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    Heyo~ MapleF14 Nisse here with some more friendly help to the community!

    TLDR (Short Version of Things)

    HP washing is hella confusing, so I'm trying to make a program to make it "easy as ABC~" Put the following info below and I can do the calculations for you!
    Code:
    [B]Current Lvl[/B]:
    [B]Current Base HP (no items)[/B]:
    [B]Current Base MP (no items)[/B]:
    [B]Job[/B]:
    
    [B]Desired HP[/B]:
    [B]By what lvl?[/B]:
    
    [B]STR[/B]:
    [B]DEX[/B]:
    [B]INT[/B]:
    [B]LUK[/B]:
    
    Screen Shot 2018-03-08 at 00.36.01.png

    Long Explanation

    HP washing is hella confusing and I've had a hard time figuring out how it works myself. One of my guildies (before he retired, rest in peace BlackApe//Willy) was working on a Washing Calculator in excel to help everyone have an easier time washing. He got really far with it, compiled all the formulas and most of the calculations were on point.

    I tried to polish it up and make it more presentable, but when I sent it to people, they were still confused. SO I decided to do something more productive with my life/time and self-teach myself some python and make a program!

    It's of course in a very basic state, but the code is all there! ALL 415 LINES OF IT! Now that the framework is there, I just need to bug test it (while I figure out how to actually package this nicely into a website or like an application...).

    Now this is where YOU come in!! I want as much info as possible about people's washing goals/current stats to see if my calculator is doing the work its supposed to. So, if you post the info, I can do your washing math for you!

    Code:
    [B]Current Lvl[/B]:
    [B]Current Base HP (no items)[/B]:
    [B]Current Base MP (no items)[/B]:
    [B]Job[/B]:
    
    [B]Desired HP[/B]:
    [B]By what lvl?[/B]:
    
    [B]STR[/B]:
    [B]DEX[/B]:
    [B]INT[/B]:
    [B]LUK[/B]:
    [B]Unused AP[/B]:
    

    You scratch my back, I scratch your's <3 This will be really helpful for me, and hopefully for all you guys out there that are confused with HP washing!

    P.S. If you found this helpful / life-saving, I do accept meso donations :heart: not expecting any, but it would be nice since I'm doing this instead of selling leech hehe
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2018
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    Thank you
     
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    Current Lvl: 30
    Current Base HP (no items): 350
    Current Base MP (no items): 1600
    Current Lvl: 30 (I THOUGHT I ALREADY ANSWER?)
    Job: 2nd Job Magician

    Desired HP: 30000 (Yes, w/o HB)
    By what lvl?: 200

    Thanks <3
     
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    Pretty sure it's literally impossible for a mage to hit 30k hp even if you add all 5 points into hp from level 1-200 LOL

    200level x 5ap x 4hp is only 4k hp
     
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    Perhaps "super" MP wash... with godly INT gears as possible...
    and convert MP into HP using AP resets?
     
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    Current Lvl: 156
    Current Base HP (no items): 4404
    Current Base MP (no items): 2362
    Current Lvl: 156
    Job: Thief, Nightlord

    Desired HP: 5600
    By what lvl?: 165
     
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    Jk sorry. Not possible :( maybe if you super MP wash but even pumping all your AP into HP from Lvl 30 to 200, you woon't have enough AP to get your HP up that high :(

    Screen Shot 2018-03-08 at 18.00.17.png
    • You can reach 5600 HP just by adding in the AP first (I dont know if you have any unused AP), but this is bloodwashing
    • To have enough MP to reset your stat to Luk... that's not possible by 165 cus of how little excess MP you have
    • A more realistic goal would be by 175 which looks more like this:
    Screen Shot 2018-03-08 at 18.00.22.png Screen Shot 2018-03-08 at 18.00.22.png
     
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    Much appreciated, thanks!
     
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    Current Lvl:173
    Current Base HP (no items):10770
    Current Base MP (no items):
    Job: 3146

    Desired HP: 15000 < to survive toad without HB
    By what lvl?:190
     
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    191 AP = 38 levels
    243 AP = 48 levels

    so to get that much fresh AP isn't possible by lvl 190 (17 levels away), unless you have AP still unused then could be a different story. You could also use not-fresh AP:
    1. Step 1 Add AP into MP (i know you have high base INT)
    2. Step 2 Reset that back into main stat
    3. Repeat 1 & 2 until you have enough MP to wash 191 - 243 times... (thats a fuck ton)
    4. Step 3 Reset ONE AP from main stat into HP (which will enable you to reset from HP/MP)
    5. Step 4 Reset MP into HP (do until HP goal)
    THEORETICALLY you can still do it... but that's a fuck ton of resets... Also the way thieves work, non-fresh AP washing gives less HP than fresh AP. Not sure about the specific numbers though :(
     
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    Current Lvl:123
    Current Base HP:3546
    Current Base MP:4668
    Job:hermit

    Desired HP: 10k
    By what lvl 155 or 160

    STR:4
    DEX:44
    INT:203 base int 315 with eq, can get 330 if needed.
    LUK: 97.
    292 unused ap.
     
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    • You just need like 13 more Lvls of AP to get 10,000 hp on your NL
    • What I suggest is to try to finish fully washing out by Lvl 165 instead, which makes your required INT when lvling go down wayyy more
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    Ooh, do you mind running this for me?

    Current Lvl: 50
    Current Base HP (no items): 1818
    Current Base MP (no items): 1354
    Job: Hunter

    Desired HP: 7100
    By what lvl?: 155

    STR: 6
    DEX: 125
    INT: 122 base, 210 with equips + MW
    LUK: 4
    Unused AP: 13
     
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    Ok , thanks Arthur
     
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    Current Lvl: 84
    Current Base HP (no items): 4199
    Current Base MP (no items): 1784
    Job: Hermit

    Desired HP: so em I'm just wondering if this can be saved or do I have to remake one to make a decent NL
    By what lvl?:

    STR: 5
    DEX: 25
    INT: 4 (+99 for future levels)
    LUK: 306

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    Current Lvl: 132
    Current Base HP (no items): 17542
    Current Base MP (no items): 3475
    Job: Bucc

    Desired HP: and if the ap currently stuck in HP can be washed out (by when and if the base int need to be increased)
    By what lvl?:

    STR: 356
    DEX: 20
    INT: 4 (+117 for future levels)
    LUK: 4
     
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    Might I ask why is there a range of AP needed to reach desired hp?
     
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    What do you mean by "+99" or "+117" for future levels???

    So theres a range of HP gain from just leveling up and when you add in fresh AP into HP. So NLs for example:
    • On level up gain 20 - 24 HP
    • AP added to HP gives 16 - 20 HP
    I give the minimum and maximum number of AP you need to reach your goal, just in case you get super lucky or unlucky with your HP gain ^^ Hope that answers your question
     

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