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Petition: Alternate Weapon/Magic Cancels

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tango, Jun 10, 2020.

  1. BananaPie
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    BananaPie Selkie Jr.

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    I'm pretty sure this is correct. It's also what I rely on to ensure I get consistent magic cancels during b1 and b2. Essentially if you get a wc, there are occasions where scar will stop attacking after applying a cancel. What I normally do during b1 and b2 is not touch scar after a wc and let it walk around, then once wc goes off I immediately attack it. I have always managed to immediately get a mc right after this and it's consistent magic cancels all the way as the next wc normally happens a good 20s into the mc meaning by the time mc is off, wc will be on cd.

    Doesn't work in 3rd body when the boss will keep attacking u no matter what, but if you've done b1 and b2 right you should have plenty of time for b3 anyway.

    EDIT: Post below just RIP'd this strat.
     
  2. shot
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    shot Capt. Latanica Retired Staff

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    I have just checked the code and that might seems to be the case.
    Though, I will dig more on it to ensure that is the problem. If it is, it will be fixed in next upcoming patch~
     
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  3. BananaPie
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    BananaPie Selkie Jr.

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    Honestly I feel what also needs to happen is to extent the cd's on mc/wc so it doesn't get spammed non-stop. Right now there's a c.10s window between when a cancel ends and the start of the next cancel which is far too short when compared to zak/HT.
     
  4. Alyosha
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    Alyosha Skelegon Retired Staff

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    It's easiest to observe on the Preheads in Horntail. I always grumble when I see the prehead cast magic cancel when weapon cancel is up as it's a lot more in your face about it. It let's you know you're about to lose significant time. :oops:
    EDIT:
    Just watched a quality Selquin HT run on Youtube. I marked all the cancels and if they went through:
    prehead 1:
    m can :15 (happened)
    w can 1:46 (happened)
    m can 1:53
    w can 4:13 (happened)
    m can 4:57
    m can 6:14 (happened)
    w can 6:19
    m can 7:43 (happened)

    prehead 2:
    w can 12:11 (happened)
    m can 13:15 (happened)
    w can 13:38
    w can 15:05 (happened)
    m can 17:30 (happened)
    w can 18:58 (happened)
    m can 19:16
    w can 20:43 (happened)

    I didn't catch any deathloops of cancels, but it came close at a couple points.
     
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  5. akashsky
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    akashsky Horntail

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    If any change is made, please make sure that the total time spent in cancels doesn't change!
     
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