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The Grand Gachapon thread

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by Kimmy, Dec 8, 2015.

Gachapon changes: READ TOPIC

Poll closed Dec 15, 2015.
  1. A2

    44.3%
  2. A3

    15.8%
  3. A3B

    6.6%
  4. A4

    6.0%
  5. B (please post in topic, read B description)

    16.4%
  6. C

    4.9%
  7. Other (please post in topic, read Other description)

    6.0%
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  1. Kimmy
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    Kimmy Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    The time has come, the feature that not many are happy about, including partly myself

    It's time to talk about Gachapon as a community, or rather create an official poll with things. What is your current state of Gachapon and its unique items/scrolls/etc

    I am giving here a bunch of poll options and you vote what you want to happen. I give an "Other" option so you can provide what you want to happen instead.

    Most likely my poll options are not specific enough, so if that's the case, describe how YOU would like it to work in Legends.

    Poll options:

    A: Make all unique items/scrolls available by means of PQ or Farming so the way to get these said unique items is based on time involved on gameplay rather a very limited vote2win based slot machine*
    A2: Apply A with keeping the Gachapon system the same
    A3: Apply A with keeping the Gachapon system but tickets only obtainable by mob drops or bosses, or other special ways such as (GM hosted) events so vote2win is no longer involved* *_*
    A3B: Not applying A but make Gachapon Tickets only obtainable by mob drops, bosses, or other special ways, such as (GM hosted) events *_* *~*
    A4
    : Apply A with removing the Gachapon system completely *~*

    B: Leave everything alone and instead try balance/tweak Gachapon even more then how it is now (chance rates, where stuff appear, etc)

    C: Leave everything how it is now

    Other: Describe as user as deep as possible how you would like it to be. Do note that you do this for EVERYONE and not only yourself. Don't be selfish and think about all jobs and all ways.

    * I am aware of a lot of things. This may be unfair for new users since they can't "vote2win" and mobbing skills. There's ways to balance this out so rates are balanced for all jobs, or some maps with lots of mobs and some with fewer and strong mobs, etc.

    *_*: When tickets only drop from mobs the chance of junk will most likely be reduced (a lot). Once again ways will be figured out to balance this with the AoE based ultimates, so its balanced for all jobs. Removing Gachapon tickets from the Cash Shop will remove the vote2win concept of Legends, and instead reward users by actually playing the game.

    *~*: What I am personally afraid for this one is that the amount of items will be even more lacking then it currently is, unless we make the item availability high by gameplay.

    B: If you vote for B, what would you like changed from Gachapon? Example, increasing the chances, distribute unique scrolls/items in more Gachapons, etc.

    I most likely forgot things. If you have things to add, let me know.

    WARNING: This is a very heavy topic right now in MapleLegends. Your opinion may be different than the other. You are free to discuss everything and you are also free to reply to other. HOWEVER, do this in a respective way and do not insult each other's opinion. Let's show everyone that we can have mature discussions about gameplay changes.

    I am aware this topic is a mess, and I am sorry. A staff member or a user that actually has skills to write proper topics is free to edit this.

    I also may have forgot things.

    NEW EDIT:
    If you want unique items to drop (A2) AND Gachapon tweak changes, vote for A2 (or the other) and reply in this thread what you would like changed from Gachapon.
     
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    Keep gachapon the way it is but have everything available through mobs/PQs at low rates.
    Maybe even for repeating JQs?

    If you remove buying gachapon tickets completely people will have little use for their NX. Possibly meaning less votes.

    FYI I never gach but I also know there's people that don't hp wash.
     
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    I'm not saying I disagree with leaving gach and vote as it is and adding drops through PQs/mobs but "little use for their nx" when you can buy cosmetic look changes, safety charms, weather buffs and most important of all, HP washing? I've been playing for over 8 months and I've never had extra nx, note that I haven't gached more than 30 times or so.
    Leaving the option to gach through nx should only be considered in terms of helping new players, there are quite a lot of thing that you can use your nx for ;)
     
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    I vote A2, my opinion on this is fairly well known, but I do think that gach could even be nerfed a bit more than that it is now with the implementation of A2.

    edit: did you forget to add A? KimberlyKimberly
     
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    A4- COME AT ME MapleF5 JK.... A3
     
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    A and A2 are identical. A is just to describe the action.
     
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    what if A2 and B combined? PogChamp
     
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    Do what B says while voting for A2
     
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    The people who are currently voting to remove gachapon entirely or making them only achievable thorugh bosses, events are the ones who abused gachapon by voting on multiple accounts and use it as an advantage. Removing it will only make the newcomers quit and let the old well funded players be able to play this game. It doesn't make any sense at all doing that, that'll actually help the high level funded people since all the NX would only be useful for AP Resets for their HP washing needs and the people who don't wanna HP wash, vote for NX so it can rot in the Cash Shop and don't take any advantage of not HP washing like the others.

    I know people are gonna rant about my comments, however It's the truth. The people who just started playing need gachapon tickets to make their game just as good and fun as yours, disabling gachapon or making tickets only achievable from bosses or events would only make the funded people even more stronger and the newcomers weaker, this shouldn't even be a option, in my opinion it seems like a very selfish option.

    *I'm not even lucky at gachapon, I used about 200k nx at kerning and barely got 40m out of it, so I'm not saying this for myself.
     
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    i voting for A2 <3
     
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    This is what makes the addition of gach only items as mob drops the best option in my opinion, but even if gach was removed completely and replaced by mob drops only as a solution it would still be better than the current system (gach only)
     
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    Isn't A2 and C the same? lol....
     
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    No. A2 adds all unique items in a different way obtainable then Gachapon, C is leaving it how its exactly now, Gachapon only.
     
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    B. I'd personally like to see the 'junk' items either removed, or increased in quantity. I don't know about anyone else, but, getting a single-digit worth of power elixirs/warrior elixirs/elixirs in general is a bit of a slap to the face at least if you gain 10-30 or something like that, you get a small bit of use out of them, and when they start stacking it doesn't feel as bad as, I don't know, two. :V Other than that, I don't have a large issue with how it is right now, but that's because I don't support gambling. (Totally not because my luck is absolute shit, nope.)
     
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    I personally don't have a problem with gachapon, its all luck and RNG. you can't always get what you want. Its fair the way it is now, everyone has the same chance whether you are lvl 45 or 175.
     
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    How do you justify this? I can farm 30% spear att scrolls at Wolf Spiders but people who need gun 30% scrolls can only obtain them from gach?
    Just curious not bashing.
     
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    Only one person that voted B has described so far what he/she would like changed. If B is voted and nothing get posted I most likely don't take the vote in account, unless you leave the tweaking to us.
     
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    A2 please, but please have the drop rates be appropriate (for example, make Gun30s at its specific mob drop at similar rate to Claw 30s and Dagger30s at Nightghosts).
     
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    I knida want A+B combined.
    Make tickets earnable by grinding and hereby slightly increasing the scroll rate, yet still have the possibility for new players to vote-to-win to get a good start on the server.

    Edit B-> Cause I feel like some items are distributed to few and some to many

    Pgc pacs etc
     
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    A2 + ur B would be great !
     
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