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[Thief] Question regarding HP Washing and related technical discussions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Motto, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. Motto
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    So, I'm making a bandit and I'm interested in that sweet HP gain from washing. ( thinking of PB :pinkbean: )

    I got 60 base INT since I was lvl 20ish and was able to get to lvl 50 with these stats :
    HP 1683 / MP 1231
    ( Haven't done any HP Washing atm, just increasing MP )

    That means that at lvl 50 I would have :
    Base MP = 14 * 50 + 148 = 848
    Meaning I have 1231 - 848 = 383 MP Extra

    I'm aiming for lvl 120 with 5k+ HP.
    Here's a copy-paste of what I wrote on discord for myself :

    At lvl 120 a thief has 3.083hp:
    With 3 washes available per lvl from lvl 50 you can get 120-50 = 70*3 = 210 washes;
    210 washes * 12 = 2.520hp ;
    Meaning you have 3083+2520 = 5.603hp;

    But that's 651.000NX, so 130 days voting at 5k per day;
    Not counting the bonus 1k you get from consecutive voting.​

    This is my goal for lvl 120.

    Now I gotta ask, given that I only washed for the first time on a warrior, it was specific as it had HP Increase skill and was better to just push all APs into HP then wash out MP to STR/DEX/INT.

    Does it work the same for Thief?
    Or are there better ways?

    I'm thinking of MP washing too, I'm thinking of getting like 160+ base INT at lvl 80 so I can get that, and this is what I found on an early thread on MP Washing :
    So it means that I'm able of getting [(160/10) -2] more int per MP Wash.
    So I'd be able to get more washes per level.

    Is this way correct for a thief?
    How should I do it well, like a warrior push all into HP then wash from MP, or are there other ways?

    Any technical discussion and comment I would really appreciate, as I've not noted that HP washing on other classes was this painful ( ez warrior life MapleF3 )


    pls don't hate on me for washing a bandit, ik it's dumb but don't be a cuntlord that says
    "but you have mezogurd huhuehue xd jkjk lulul" :sack::sack::sack:
     
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    Yes, what you described is correct - though I think going up to 160 base int for a shadower is overkill. Remember that you have meso guard, so your effective HP is twice what your actual max is (if you have 5k hp you can tank 10k).

    Soo if you want to do pink bean, you would just need to wash to like 5750 hp by lv 175.
     
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    Seems easy then.
    What about the Washing.... is it like a Warrior?

    Drop APs into HP then wash out of MP, or some other stuff?
    Like MP Washing to HP Washing?
     
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    You can do what you like.. fresh ap into hp is 16-20 hp, mp into hp is 16 hp flat. If you're mo washing, dump all your fresh ap into mp and wash mp into hp; for shadowers that's most hp for each ap with that much base int (more nx tho)
     
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    So, for clarity this is what I did (mp washing):
    - have high base int
    - level up with ints and mw and everything on.
    - pump all fresh ap into mp. (Somehow with my bish, having ints and mw on helps; not sure how and why, but maybe it does for thiefs too. Never tested but, just do it)
    - take off ints and mp
    - wash 4!!! mp into base stat (luk, dex io whatever you want)
    - wash mp into hp for as long as possible, leaving 1 ap in the hp/mp pool

    REPEAT EVERY LEVEL
    - level up with ints and mw
    - 5 ap into mp
    - ints and mw off
    - 5x mp into base stat
    - mp into hp until you can't anymore with the 1 stat that is still in there from before

    Once you're done you can take out the last ap from you hp/mp pool. Just leave it in there while mp washing. You won't notice the 1 ap difference
     
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    It takes 120int per level up to wash once for thieves. tbh since you're a bandit, you only need to wash once per level and you will be fine
     

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