Why is Account Sharing Bad?

I feel like IF account sharing is going to be allowed, it should be clearly stated in the Terms of Service that the staff is not liable or responsible for conflicts you have with the person you share the account with.

For example, the person you trusted your account to has taken your stuff without permission? Your fault. You trusted them, this is YOUR responsibility.

The person you share an account with has used up all of your mesos without asking? Boo hoo. You decided to share the account. This is your fault.

The issue shouldn't be the identity behind the account, it should be more what the account does. If it hacks ANOTHER player, or harasses ANOTHER player that is not involved in the sharing, then it's up to staff to ban them or take any sort of action. But if something went wrong between the 2 people that shared the account, they should not be able to rely on Game Masters because it's their own fault, and GMs shouldn't have to take any action to this

 

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TriHard

 

thanks TriHard

 

I think it's highly comical that these ''Game Assistants'' which I've never seen do anything relevant, are only enforcing absurd things and defending them without providing any logical argument to doing so, neither questioning the actual reasoning for a certain rule or something similar. It's like a herd of sheep.

 

Keep replying out of feeling, just shows how unprofessional you are. I am here to play, not to be a doormat.

 

And you wouldn't even be able to play here at all if it wasn't for the staff team.

 

So your argument is that no one can question bad decisions/rules/whatever, because they aren't a part of the ''staff team''?

 

No it isn't. You should definetly question bad decisions, that's how you can make improvements, but calling them sheep simply because they didn't argue about a rule is silly. They don't have any obligation to do so.

My reaction was to your ungrateful attitude.

 

is working "Behind-the-scenes" as a game assistant just code for spawning mobs in GM maps to fund yourself nowadays? TriHard

 

We've been hearing the "behind-the-scenes" answer since 2k15 TriHard

 

Yes, it is against the ToS to account share. However, let me say this: if we're talking about moral ethics, is it really wrong to disobey a bad rule?

In addition, the staff hasn't stated a legitimate reason on why account sharing is bad other than that it is stated in the ToS and account stealing scandals would be more prevalent(which I feel like could be easily dealt with by stating it is at an individual's own risk).

I can't see a more flawed argument than the basis of your stance being that the rule is being "enforced" just because it is in the ToS. I do apologize for coming out rather aggressively in my previous post and soon-to-be this one, but where the hell would the world be right now if all the past civilizations followed rules just because it was stated in law? If that were the case, then here, in Texas, the fucking three-fifths compromise would still be in affect and unpaid servitude would casually be a norm; history shows us what works and doesn't work, which is why every form of human interaction is supposed to evolve and progress. I do believe it is rather clear that account sharing being a ban-able offense is an outdated rule, as shown by the controversy this thread has stirred up. At the end of the day, the goal here is to make the best server possible, and I know this stance many others and I are taking is one step further in that direction.

 

McCree Frisk

Maybe it is time to do some thinking for yourself. Let me help you!

Why is hacking bad? Sure, it's clearly against the ToS, but it's also a bad thing. It has quite the potential to ruin the game for everyone. Imagine duping, creating godly items, infinite mesos, invulnerability, insta kill bosses. You take away all challenge from the game, and thus it isn't fun, and it's not even fun for others.

But let's say you hack and you don't affect anyone but yourself. Maybe you are content to keep your own duped stuff to yourself, and you're the highest ranking player but you solo everything and don't help or trade with anyone else.

Clearly, you wouldn't be hurting anyone else, but what you're doing is still against the ToS. There is a way the game is meant to be played, a way the staff means for you to play, and they don't want you playing their game if you don't follow those guidelines.

Want a better reason than that? Well, many players tend to be very competitive and envious of one another. Whoever is the highest on the rankings, who has the best DPS, the most mesos, the best gear is a big deal to them. It doesn't matter if you don't affect anyone else. They will tear you down for achieving and acquiring things in the way they didn't. Consider that many older players got triggered when the cost of AP resets was going to be reduced. This would mean new players could achieve what they did in terms of HP washing with far less time/effort put into voting and start getting more stuff from gachapon earlier. And they went mental.

It's the same thing as why we go nuts over people doing drugs in sports. Even though a person isn't hurting anyone (except maybe their own health) using things like steroids for training and during sporting events is considered against the rules, in order to ensure a more "fair" and "safe" competition.

Now consider account sharing. Aside from violating the ToS and playing the game it was not intended or allowed, doing this doesn't hurt anyone else. All you're doing is just giving yourself or a friend a buff ... from a character that you did not create or level yourself.

Here we have a view from the "competition" side of the argument again. Nikki gave a great example. Say you are bad at jump quests, but your little brother is really good at it. It's "unfair" to other players, who have no siblings good at JQs or trustworthy friends good at JQs to do them for them. Consider the same viewpoint with the rankings. People take rankings very seriously, and to many, it's "unfair" if someone is #1 on the leader board just because they have a bunch of friends who are super serious about the game, dedicated to grinding the game so they can achieve the #1 spot by collaborating on a single character.

Now onto the "safe" analogy, there are risks when taking steroids, and there are risks when sharing one's account. Maybe the staff just wants to prevent you from taking unnecessary risks as well? Ask yourself, why do you wear a seat belt in your car? It is against the law to do otherwise, but you aren't hurting anyone except maybe yourself if you don't wear a seat belt.

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Aside from that reasoning, that's all I've got. Not satisfied? Go make your own game.

I have wanted to make my own online RPG game, and if it existed, my ToS would state that each person could only have one account, and each person could only have one character. Account sharing and character sharing would be illegal.

Why? Because that's how I want the game to be played. Going to debate me on that? Please, no. Not interested. Go make your own damn game and make up your own rules for it.

 

What people have been asking here is _WHY_ is it a rule and they haven't been answered.

Yes, this is what you would do if you wanted a server where you play alone. That is not how you handle a big community though. Telling people to go fuck themselves is what you do, when your narcissistic ego gets in the way and you're not ready to make changes.

 

After reading through this thread, I do want to ask as a humble player who is outside the machinations of the staff team, how does the community actually make progress on repealing the account share clause from the ToS? A community poll and discussion thread that has started to take shape in this thread, but in all likelihood it will more or less mirror the AP reset change (or therelackof, although we seem to have our cast with slightly different alignments from last time). In the end, it seems to be beyond even the GMs and interns, whom have declared their role as law enforcement. So... Kimberly ?

 

As much as I appreciate your detailed answer which surely has put some more perspective for me, I can't help but get at least a little bit salty at this passive aggressiveness:

As I've said before, I'm neutral about this topic. That doesn't mean I don't know how to think for myself. I have actually said multiple things how I feel about this situation.
If there is an argument I have something to say back to, I will.