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Yet another. Price checking guide / Sheet

Discussion in 'Items & Mesos' started by krylios, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. krylios
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    LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sk4IVNk8W6QgK-mSxghpb6oNJJYHhFwEpH2K_oG7ny4/edit?usp=sharing

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    Yes another one of them because I like the template ohviviho but wanted it to include more things and be updated for my own use so I did it myself. Either way thank him for the formulas and the clean and easy to read template that I copied and simply added more data and categories to. I generally update it everyday while surfing through FM. If I decide to take a break from legends there will be an announcement made directly on the sheet to keep this thread clean.

    Any recommendations for things I should add or changes you'd like to see in the sheet let me know and if you'd like to contribute data feel free to dm me on the forums or discord.
    You can also catch me streaming on mixer(inserting shamless plug https://mixer.com/krylios), probably updating the guide while waiting for opq or mpq (please pq more people I need cards f4).
     
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    hell yeah kry this is sick tysm for posting
     
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    In my opinion, prices should be categorized under a 90th percentile rather than an average. An average can be heavily skewed with outliers whereas using the 90th percentile will yield numbers showing that 90% of the prices in the market are at X price or lower.
     
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    Sadly there is no "percentile if" function in google sheets at the moment that would make my life easier with that, but if there is a way to do that but it escapes my knowledge please let me know and I'd make the addition. The best we can do is use our best judgement with the data consolidated which is basically what trading in MS boils down to ;-;.
     
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    Also percentiles generally work better with wider data ranges but with how maple legends and FM works with collecting price data, most scrolls and items only have 2-6 entries of data in a recent period of time. So the prices will end up skewed either way because well, the 90th percentile of 6 data points will most likely end up matching only 1-3 at most.

    Unless I am content with keeping outdated data from 3+ weeks or more. This is the best I can currently work with using the functions that I have learned to use in google sheets. Markets in mmo's can also be fickle with how inflation in games work as well and I'm mostly worried about prices increasing overtime because of meso influx with no natural economy resets and only the current meso sinks put in place by the original game ie. taxing and pots from in game shops. Which will heavily skew the spread sheet towards the lower end and not be as accurate even accounting for a PERCENTILEIF function existing in gsheets.

    So my current method relies on me manually deleting price data 1+ week old in an attempt to alleviate that inherent problem with mmo economies for a more accurate and up to date sheet. Unless the standard currency changes to everyone trading ores or something this is the best way I can come up with myself to make sure the sheet is up to date and the averages don't end up being skewed too low from old data and natural mmo inflation which happens in every mmo that has a farmable currency and no economy resets. Sadly no matter how well balanced the original drop rate and meso sinks in Old MS are / were players will always farm more through vendoring and drops, it's an age old mmo design problem. So prices will naturally increase over time. I've seen that already looking at some of the older sheets that kept their data from only 1 month old ie. scrolls that use to be 1m increasing to 1.3m this month such as ohviviho's sheet and Mi's(although this one is 1 year old) scroll guide. It's a lot of manual work but I enjoy doing the tediousness of it for some reason. But if you have suggestions or knowledge I'm not aware of in sheets or potential solutions to this problem dm me on forums or discord because if I can find a way to alleviate the amount of manual work I have to do maintaining the sheet I'd love to do so. (but seriously please pq more after level 55 people and stop leeching I'm so bored that this is what I'm forced to do while waiting...;-; )
     
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    when it says max does that mean thats the highest it sold for? why would dpeople buy something so much higher than it is o.o like c law att 10 avg is 191k but highest sold 1.2m?
     
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    Max means the highest price of the item I've found FOR SALE in the FM which means people listing it for that price, aka overpricing it or in cases of some items that have high and low rolls for equips it can be a reflection of having high clean stats on equips.
     
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    Thank you for making this!!! MapleF2

    If I could ask - is it possible to add commas to the numbers like "1,000,000" instead of "1000000" so that numbers blind people like me would have an easier time? Just a QOL thing, not super important but would be rly gr8 if you could do that!!!! Also ok to not do that if it's too much work hehe thx!!!
     
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    I think this is very misleading/incorrect. Nearly EVERY price listed is extremely below market prices, such as your Chaos Scroll and White Scrolls to begin with (White scroll you have listed at 70m?) I also noticed a lot of anomalies with other scroll prices as well. You said that you haven't updated it in a while, I think you should try and do that before sharing because it can lead to new players being scammed for their hard-earned mesos. Along with this, there are simply too many scrolls outright omitted from your list.

    My suggestion is that any new people looking for prices should make a copy of the OP's spreadsheet s a guideline, but begin to fill it with the prices for items that they see sold in the FM. That way, they know for sure what is being sold for what value and make a determination as to what to do with their items.
     
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    This would be nearly nice yea.
     

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