[Poll] Balance changes: Meeting Expectations or Falling Short?

My maple wife SI mule is female so it’s not so exciting

 

yeah it's pretty good for a meaty update all things considered. good job staff ^o^

 

That is a nicely washed bishop. I'm not saying they can't, I'm saying they shouldn't. They won't get xp and the money isn't that great. Also not every bishop is washed well. I didn't start washing until like lvl 100 and there are plenty of bishops that have less HP than me.

@6500HP Horntail is very comfortable. When they start having less than 3500HP then it isn't. And if you see the HP challanges for mages it gives them less than 3k HP.

 

I still dont care but I think I read pap iframes were fixed for melee characters attacking from ground but this will also include my invinicible BM attacking with hurricane and puppet.

so if I ever go back to pap this is nice

 

The Pap heal animation frame adjustment looks nice, I'm curious how it will change my solo run timers on my Ranger.

 

holy HP when did you start MP wash/Hp wash? I'm 140 ish and I started MP at 95, HP once 29.5k MP :O

 

I'm delighted to say I virtually only had positive reactions to the changes.
Sure, there weren't any hugely impactful changes, but the general direction taken in changes that were made (3rd job grinding, showing some love to underutilized mobs, fixing shitty hitboxes in content, even if the content isn't relevant for endgamers) all left me feeling happy.

I'm excited to toy with Brexton again, Gatekeeper, pap finally not magically dodging my nates, yada yada yada.

Thanks, staff!!!

 

Overall okay changes, I don't think alchemist duration remove is necessary but NL always get nerf so meh.
still disappointed that leech is not touched and by the look of things nothing gonna change.

 

for some reason couple extra mins cider\apple > 12 hours afk leech

 

I changed my vote to exceeds just because of the NL nerf. Please continue, cast limit, macro and avoid nerf next.

 

Weren't you complaining about having too little avoid on your BM earlier?

 

Yes but a NL nerf is equally as satisfying, also nearing 170 my natural avoid is finally making thr smallest noticeable difference.

 

Fair enough. I agree with you that cast limit should be looked into, BM being able to shoot (often from safety) without the bot check is very abuseable.

 

join the Balance team I like your points

well typical human behavior , can't have it so nobody should

 

Really happy to see the 3rd job improvements, have always been a huge proponent to buffing mobs at those levels, since those levels are virtually the only levels that are really sucky to grind at.

As for the NL nerfs, super duper happy about it, these guys even after these nerfs are probably still the most broken in terms of bossing. Using so little pots due to high avoid, dealing crazy damage without needing to worry much about mechanics like corsairs or archers, so on and so forth. Ofcourse, i would prefer seeing buffs to other classes, so that they become atleast on par to NLs even when their mechanics aren't perfect, instead of only being able to be on par with NLs IF their mechanics were perfect. All this is because NLs really don't need any mechanics.

DK nerfs was meh, was hoping that they instead got the 5 roar limit nerf instead, so that way they really become obsolete since stance will be burden instead (I'm not sure about the stance statement but pretty sure)

Overall, 7/10.

 

Im just tired of NLs spending half the runs AFK attacking air because they're watching youtube :s

 

5 limit was already a thing for a year now.

 

ahh ok, then perfect, i up my score to 8/10

 

Ummm , I don't see any connection of that to alchemist but okie ,
NL is the most unindependent class in the game that need SE on his back , need mass funds do be in the bosses u observe them as afk and I think got the harder time lvling and exp farming , and overall the NLs on your parties sound pretty trash if they attacking air I wouldn't take those to myn that for sure.
but so far seems ppl just hate\jelly NLs and glad for every nerf they have and find something to complain all over again

 

Highest dpm class in the game with 1 buff
requires literally 0 skill/attention, hold TT key
items are mass produced so upgrading steps is easy
Cheapest easiest class in the game to boss with due to avoid, uses next to no potions, potions are worth double due to 200% recovery rate despite all other classes in the game being nerfed with NLC pots price increase
Lvling/exp farming is a mute point since NL's are top pick's for nearly all content because of DPM

Cons:

Big mean red mommy took away my free 5mins of apples


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