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Auf Haven suggestions from a frequent runner

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Lin, Apr 24, 2023.

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    Greetings Travellers, Linny here.

    Auf Haven/Aufheben is one of the endgame bosses i have been running fairly frequently since its release on August 2022, and after many runs i figured its time to share what i have learnt and noticed in the runs i have been in. This may be a jumbled mess because i'm not a pro forum writer but i will try my best, without further ado, let's address some stuff!

    Classes and it's viability

    For Auf, its mainly a 'melee biased' boss for the most part, because the three clone phases, involves taking down a total of 7 clones in a run as fast as possible. If unable to do so, the clones will end up healing themselves as well as the Main Auf Haven by a good chunk. Hence melee classes like Warriors, Shadowers, Buccaneers, and sometimes Marksman are good for this boss.

    For Mages, it might be one of the most excruciatingly painful bosses one would ever have to fight, with all those dispels. There is also a skill that has killed many of my lower HP Shadower and Mages, which is this skill. It looks like she's going to do a Dispel Orb, but it doesn't come out. It's a fake, it's actually a close ranged stun attack. Warriors, Shadowers, Buccs, and Mages will get hit by it, and if she cast's a Global dispel, plop there goes my Mage friends.
    Please refer to this gif below for the 'Fake orb stun skill'


    One unfortunate dilemma for me as a host right now is that some classes, do end up being in the lurch, i don't have much of a suggestion for classes, but perhaps with the flying ability enabled in the future, it might be a better QOL as right now, the range players will have to jump and shoot like so.
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    Have you guys seen this item before? auf wing.png
    Yea i know, it's rare. This is an item that the Main Auf Haven will drop upon defeating her.
    What is it used for? Well, once you finish the entire Neo Tokyo quest line, you can use two items,
    the Core blaze tip core tip.png and the wing auf wing.png to exchange one Auf dark scroll, to another.
    For me, i will usually exchange the INT one to a STR one. Problem is, there's WAY too many tips in the game right now, and little to no wings. One reason well, not a lot of folks run Auf Haven, and second, the drop rate of it is relatively low.

    Here's what i suggest! What if, the Clones drop the wings instead? There's a total of 7 in a round. That could even out the Core tip to wing ratio.


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    Now, onto her attacks.

    As of now, the boss is one of if not, the most 'cancerous' boss to fight alongside Dunas V2, as she dispels like no tomorrow. One, which is a global dispel that happens every 90 seconds,
    and an attack based dispel, which is an Orb attack. Feel free to refer to this video below



    A screenshot of the dispel orb
    sadsa.png

    For ranged attackers, the Dispel Orb attack is inevitable, if you are a Night Lord, then hopefully Shifter kicks in, however for the Bowmen and Corsairs, it can be REALLY annoying.

    But Linny! This is an endgame boss it's supposed to be HARD! Yea... i guess.. But looking at the expedition entry rates for Auf Haven from the recent Balance thread, it couuuld be looked into tweaking some stuff.

    So here's a suggestion! I believe a staff member did ask about something like this before on another forum thread so I'd like to give it a shout again. What if the dispel orb could be dodged by ducking? Just like Vergamot's laser and missiles, and Pink Bean's Musical note Seduce.

    BUT LINNY THAT MAKES IT TOO EASY, hmm okay. How about... if you duck while the orb flies over you... it has a 50% chance of no dispel? The orb's animation might have to be slowed down a bit i reckon, as of right now it is very fast, might be too fast to even dodge. Idk, just throwing out ideas, let me know what you guys think.

    Last but not least, her drops.
    Now, her drop table is GOOD, it's not terrible. Take a look at what she drops
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    Every type of Flairgrave, the Judgement gun, even YSS and Element Pierces.
    Sure, they don't drop as often, as it should for such a rare item. Folks who run this boss, do it mostly for the Auf Haven Circlet. As of now, it drops 1 to 6 helmets when defeated. It is a bit of a bummer for a group of 6 to endure close to an hour or more, only to have one helmet drop.
    I'll post some screenshots of some drops that were in my runs. Take a look!
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    I'm kidding, these are the dry runs yes, there's also some good ones!
    These are rare-ish btw, if only we got these many all the time :')
    6.png 7.png 10.png image.png

    So here's my suggestion! Instead of a minimum of 1 helmet, what if it was... 3? So even a group of 6, everyone gets a try at one helmet (assuming both runs drop 3)

    Coin pouch rates... For mid level funded folks, where they will probably use 3 apples per person, if a pouch drops, it's enough to cover apple costs. Currently its rate is 0 to 2 pouches, and is classified as (Super Common), would it be pushing it to suggest maybe, 0 to 3 pouches? Like how Pink Bean drops up to 3 pouches as well? Ehh.. maybe I'm pushing it, but that's all i got for now! It's late so I'll publish this first, I might edit it in between if i have any new things i would like to add. Thanks for reading, and feel free to discuss!

    Oh also, if you would like to learn almost everything about this boss, i have a Comprehensive guide video here. Take a look if you like!



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