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[Formal Proposal] Quester's Ring

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Skuire, Apr 30, 2020.

Do you support this proposal?

  1. Yes

    498 vote(s)
    82.9%
  2. Yes, but needs changes (specify in thread)

    84 vote(s)
    14.0%
  3. No

    19 vote(s)
    3.2%
  1. Escort
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    Escort Slime

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    Maybe a sub stat of Exp % increase? tier 1 -> 1% increase when hunting etc, something like pendant of the spirit. Since doing multiple low exp quest is slower than grinding given the same amount of time.
     
  2. TofuEater
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    TofuEater Mano

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    Appreciate the effort and the professionally written statement to begin with.

    The facts you stated teach us that quests are neglected by people even though they grant 3x exp. I believe this neglection stems from the rewards that do not pay off the common cause of most players in the game: exp per set amount of time (and quests require dedicated time).
    long-term rewards regarding stats for better survivability or better resistance to more powerful monster for a set level of a character or any reward that stack up might be the alternative for time spent questing rather than dedicating it to grinding or leeching. Not to mention less HP washing dependency for better use of NX for different items.

    Not sure about how OP the proposed stats are. I'll check it out.

    I recommend another requirement : set amount of completed PQ's that grant a somewhat shortcut. For example: 10 OPQs completed counted a total of 15 completed quests (not mandatory so people can choose whether to invest for a shortcut or work harder for this 5 quests) making PQs more relevant.

    As stated above, much appreciation investing your experience in the server for a great explained idea.
     
  3. SwordnBoard
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    SwordnBoard Selkie Jr.

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    Overall numbers might need a bit of a tweak, 1k def sounds like it would do a shitload.

    But the overall concept i am 100% behind.

    You have my vote!
     
  4. Motto
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    There should be limits to the way people could accept the Tier upgrade quest, mostly by level locked quests
    For example Tier 1 could be gained from LVL 15 and onwards and make it obtainable every 15 levels.
    So with this in mind you could see the gain of wdef/mdef on par to the levels / grinding areas.
    At lvl 60 you would generally be able to get a Tier 4 ring (+150mdef/wdef) which is on par to a secondary ZHelm.

    Slowly creeping up to lvl 150 where you will be able to get a Tier 10 ring which will help boost the QoL of any char that hasn't washed much, pretty much played around and did many quests and wanted to boss.

    Other than that the suggestion looks pog / 10.
     
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  5. yogurtseller
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    yogurtseller Mixed Golem

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    On board with this! If/when implemented, I'm looking forward to "LF>Questing buddy" posts in the discord servers I'm in :) (bonus nostalgia points).

    In my opinion, this would be more enjoyable (and certainly less frustrating) compared to card hunting because most quests aren't heavily RNG focused, and a certain level of progress can be expected every hour. Card hunting on the other hand, can be a bit of a wild card because sometimes a set may take an hour or 10 minutes.

    Of course, card hunting and quest hunting aren't exclusive of each other. Sounds like the best way to go about this is prioritizing questing, and collecting cards along the way.

    I'll also echo the thoughts on the OP-ness of the proposed ring stats. 1000 w.def/m.def is an insane amount. From what I've seen, the most hefty def equip is the horntail pendant with 250 DEF, and this should be the upper limit of defense for a quest ring.
     
  6. MrPresident
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    I think another maybe interesting way to "level lock" this would be to make the upgrade quest involve some sort of boss drop. Tier 1 is a mano rainbow shell, tier 2 mushmom spore, all the way up to tier 6-10 being pap (papulatus curl), krexel (custom drop?), pianus (pianus scale), zak (zak diamond), HT (customer drop?) drops. Maybe even include the ToT boss in some upgrades so it forces players to do the questline. That way you can't be level 60 and have a maxed out ring.
     
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  7. SaviorSword
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    SaviorSword Dark Stone Golem

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    I hope the quest count only counts for unique quest completions instead of just general quest number completion. If I'm not mistaken, a few "quests" involve if a player loses a quest item and the player gets a quest to complete to reattain the lost item. If that's the case, then there's room to abuse general quest number completion.

    Overall, I do share the general sentiment that this would be a great idea to implement, but it's current state still has some elements to modify for balance's sake before a final implementation into the game.

    Take my support!
     
  8. Motto
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    That's going to grow boss timer toxicity to another level of retardation tbh.
     
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  9. yogurtseller
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    yogurtseller Mixed Golem

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    [​IMG]

    no need for a custom krexel drop
     

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    The last thing I want is more people camped out at area bosses. That has the potential for people just making multiple accounts/mules and establishing mapowner at Mano and the like to sell maps: sounds awful. Just make the more time-consuming quests a requirement (maybe like the 600 Cursed Dolls or 400 Mateon Tentacle ones instead of the full 1000 and 500, respectively).
     
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    Skuire Nightshadow

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    Thanks for all the feedback so far! I decided to test some numbers by stripping and throwing myself at mobs. Here are the results:

    [​IMG]

    It's true, 1,000 def is a tad bit excessive. That said, I still don't believe Horntail Pendant should be our hard cap at +250 def. Taking the above data into account, along with many good points of feedback, I've reworked the stats and even added required levels. Take a look and tell me whatcha think:

     
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    Loreen Horny Mushroom

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    I'm definitely a supporter :D Great idea. Rings are such a lovely part of maple.
     
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    merky Mr. Anchor

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    As others have said, it's going to make hunting bosses extremely frustrating. As it is, there are already people who channel surf and KS with blatant disregard for the person who owns the map. I'd like the quest ring to redirect some traffic away from boss maps, rather than funnel everyone towards them.
     
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    Anon Horny Mushroom Retired Staff

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    I am a fan of the utility that such a ring would provide, and definitely appreciate the def twist in an effort to reduce wash necessity, and support players who have gone the extra mile to wash to 30k.

    As far as level requirements, I don't think that's necessary. As Akashsky said, most mages are at Ghost Ship taking 0 damage, and not even using MP potions most likely. Would it really be the end of the world if some player were to grind out all the available quests in an effort to maximise def by that point in the game? I don't think so.

    Overall, fantastic post as per usual.
    Great stuff!
     
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    Still think the accuracy and speed are too much! Cap accuracy at 10 and remove speed?
     
  16. Motto
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    The +20 accuracy really helps out low-DEX and non funded players imho

     
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    Agreed, but have speed cap at 10 as well.
     
  18. KurayamiLove
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    The only way Ill quest in this damn game would be for this.
     
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    itzjaheezy Chronos

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    Nice a ring where I won't receive any dead stats :^)
     
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    I'm in favor. And to think my suggestion was to have the final reward be a chair. Maybe a chair could be the benchmark for that magic 1000, once the ring is fully upgraded?
     
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