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NullExp command

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by cakesogood, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:52 PM.

  1. cakesogood
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    I would like to make another suggestion of @nullexp where you won't get any exp or take exp when leeching. This way more convenient for leechers not needing to go fm to buff. Don't need to /party invite /party expel every few seconds as well. A QOL change...

    People gonna use mules no matter what unless you prevent them which will make them sad.
    Better to make player experience better for them.
    These changes make grinding a smooth experience and more fun...

    Before
    /partyinvite si /partyexpel hs /partyinvite se /partyexpel hs /FM BUTTON partyinvite si /partyexpel hs /partyinvite si /partyexpel hb /partyinvite si /FM BUTTON /partyexpel hs /partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel /FM BUTTON hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/partyinvite si /partyexpel hs/FM BUTTON

    After
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    Attacker who kills a monster and uses @nullexp will still get exp
    Exp bar turns red so you won't forget that your Exp is being nulled
    Doesn't work on bosses or /if the attacker does more then (10~50% dmg/hit once) to bosses. @nullexp will not work even when someone else kills in this case
     
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    that might be a good suggestion, so i can stay in LPQ until i get 5 of the boss cards :)
     
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    ahotbanana Game Moderator Staff Member Game Moderator

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    I don't really see the need for this. Generally, your buff mules would be too low level to take exp anyway. If you're leeching at GS2, WR or WS, you should be able to 1hit those with a bishop, so no HS mule is needed. HB mules are level 41, so you don't need to worry about them taking exp. Anything high enough to need a proper mage to leech, a level 81 HS mule won't be taking exp.

    What other mules are you taking in? SI is the only one I can think of that this would be of benefit to.

    Even if it was of benefit, I would still kind of be against the idea. The fact we even have an FM button is enough of a bonus and we don't generally try to encourage people to use mules.
     
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    people still gonna do it even in FM like myself... might as well make it more relaxing to the user

    there is also low lvl leech for int lords and int masters
     
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    Biggest flaw i see is what happens to the exp when the mage leeching nulls their exp? Does the mages exp get split between the leechers or does the exp disappear? Not worth adding imo regardless because as banana said we shouldn’t be encouraging such heavy mule use imo.
     
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    the person who kills will get exp no matter what only apply to leecher
     
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    best work around to this is to have a mule on a rope and /partyinvite muleIGN copy pasted.

    then you type enter, control+V, enter. This will send a party invite to the mule.

    Then, you click accept invite on the mule, use ur buff then type /leaveparty

    During the second go, instead of typing /leaveparty on the mule, you can press enter, up enter.
     
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    yes, this is what I do, but with my HB and hs and si so it takes more effort. If this is implemented it will make leeching more fun and relaxin.
     
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    ahotbanana Game Moderator Staff Member Game Moderator

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    Where are you leeching that your HB mule is taking exp? That's the crazy part of this to me
     
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    jr wraiths and genins sir
     
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    How do you limit this though? What about utilizing this in a bossing scenario. What constitutes a leecher in HT? If I’m 200 can I do null exp and let the rest of my party get exp? People find ways to abuse these systems all the time just look at what happened to the tax rates in game because we used to pay splits as 999,999 to get a lower tax.
     
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    dosent work on bosses then thx for the insights
    or if he does more then 10~50% dmg/hit once to ht he will get exp no matter what
     
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    This might be the best suggestion out of @nullexp.
     
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    Maybe a suggestion can be to add the command:

    /acceptparty

    This would allow for super quick mule rebuffing but not break the game by nulling the exp, which could easily be aboosed
     
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    I don't think I'm a fan of continually pushing the player base towards adding more and more clients and supporting that method of play. A big part of me would like to see the game move in the other direction, towards the old-school feel of a single client on a single character for the most part. And I say that as someone who has made almost every mule[Though I rarely use them] and as someone who theory-crafted the eventual ruin of HT, and given the state of many of the HH mules I feel like it's getting close, and they've likely reached full scale production at this point once people found out that not only are they viable, but damn effective.

    I just don't like the message it sends when characters are simply mules, and updates to make that easier simply normalizes uber-efficient mindset in playing the game.
     
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    well if you really want that we can make si only active when bucc is in party and in the map :D
    Or make hh scale with bonus attack/stats
    Many players will be mad so i think my suggestion would be good
     
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    ^ i just found out "HH mules" are a real thing. before i thought it was just a joke name for paladins. mulestory is getting out of hand...
    OnionSilent
     
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    Kimberly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    There are a few times this was suggested before here, and there's also a server I know of that has a similar system - Being Royals with their 'EverStone'

    In MapleRoyals it's currently heavily abused by people that hack / RWT and the reason why they use the 'EverStone' method is basically so they can hack silently without leveling up ever, thus being less likely to be caught by their system for leveling up so much.

    While the fact it's abused there by hackers is a concern, I am also not too much of a fan of this idea in general. It feels very custom as well as pretty hackish.
     
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    ok any way to make it easier to add and expel then like a feature? if not may close thread
     
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    how about a feature that makes it auto accept's party invite and auto leaves after 1~3seconds?? plz i farming while adding ppl makes me not wanna farm long ;d
     
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