Night Raven's Claw

The few assassins who can afford it? Once you are a level 90+ sin it is not difficult to farm the materials yourself. Most of the stats you considered in your calculation will take at least a year to obtain. I agree that NRC will eventually lose out, but I think you are severely underestimating the length of time it will take for that point to be reached, and overestimating the damage gap.

 

tell me what equips to add in and ill prove DPS is still superior.

 

Like i said, I tested with shitty items aswell, and DPS is still superior, name some items and ill go ahead and add them in.

 

Sleve is superior no doubt, but by a 400 range margin (does it decrease as you compare using non-perfect equipment?). NRC is not strictly end-game, but is pretty close enough to be a decent substitute without having to scroll for dex at all.

This is in comparison to other classes like bowmen who will suffer more if they stick to lv 64 maple weapons instead of adding STR and using the nisrock/neschere. Similarly, NLs would suffer more with Skanda compared to adding dex and using sleve, but here they can take their time with NRC.

 

No, you were just wrong in general. There are a good number of warriors who, by the time they're "end-game," have little to no DEX.

Maple Weapons weren't left out because they're "overkill," they were left out for now because they're only going to be obtainable during certain time periods to stay true to GMS.

Reason 2: If I recall correctly, Night Raven items, or the claw to be exact, came out after v62. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

You recall incorrectly. They were added in v0.59

Reason 3: No other class (besides mages) has a secondary statless end-game item. It wouldn't be fair for classes like marksman and buccs who are already scraping to get by.[/QUOTE]

Warriors, Marksmen, and in many cases Shadowers.

For anyone who might say it's hard to get, it's honestly not. It's just a matter of doing the EQ everyday until you get the needed item.[/QUOTE]

Dragon Weapons are even easier to obtain, and Elemental Wands are the easiest of all, so I don't see much of an argument here.


Do you also suggest we remove BWG? In theory, they're the best gloves in the game and they're obtainable from an exchange quest. What about YACs, Night Raven's Eyes, and Balanced Furies?

 

It's not harder than taking a look in the files, you'll see all the stuff that is in the game, literally.

 

This was not the stated reason for removing maple weapons. The reason held by Kimberley has been that the items are too strong and make other builds (and items) irrelevant. She said that they would consider adding them eventually, but this was not the stated reason why they weren't included at the start.

Please read Kim and Navi's posts in this thread:
http://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/maple-items.2160/
From their posts, it appears as though the only reason they agreed to adding them eventually was because it was clear that most players wanted them.

I have nothing against keeping items like NRC in the game... I'm just saying that it is inconsistent with the argument made against maple weaps.

 

Oh I just remembered, NRC is 1 speed faster than Sleve as well. I don't think that was factored into the calculations was it? That would definitely narrow the margin further.

 

if nrc gets taken away lets make the elemental wands go away, dragon weps go away wooooooooo every end game item sweeet

 

I'm a Hermit and .. tbh.. I agree it should be removed... It is a little dumb. kappa

 

IIRC, the speed difference does not matter, as with Booster they both hit the maximum speed (2).

 

Ooh right i forgot about speed cap.

 

+1 I think NRC should be taken out

 

How about we just upgrade to GMS version, would that stop people crying. Fuck it all.

 

1. maple weps are mostly for warriors early game, due to the acc bonus, most other classes do fine without them

2. not sure when it came out, but its not that game breaking imo

3. mm and buccs shouldn`t go str/dex less anyway, as the dmg will suck for endgame compared to getting a lvl 110 xbow/knuckle
( wep att is more important than some extra str or dex for these classes )

//also lets stop with the remove everything posts and other crap on here, feels like this thread went a bit off topic into just random complaining and trolling
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