Night Raven's Claw

Whats your input on removing it kim?

 

-1 for this opinion.
If NRC were in v62, there would be no reason to remove it from Legends.
Legends claims to be the most GMS-like server, so why do people even want to remove the feature which had already been in?

Yes, NRC is in fact substitute-able end-game weapon.
But what about other classes' items from Gachapon?
Should we remove them as well?

 

people probably mix up GMS-Like/Nostalgic and Hardcore to much (x

hard to know exactly where a good line between them are and people come up with BANEVERYTHING2015# and stuffs just due to something being unfair against one certain class or another in the game

 

it was there..... keep it

 

why are you comparing GM scrolls to Night Raven Claws? It's 2 completely different things. I see what you mean by equality, but the nrc is just a weapon, it can be scrolled to however people want. With the GM scroll that gives an auto 100% chance to make a perfect 1h sword if people were to farm for a day or two.

its just a weapon chill out

 

I'm not sure how you managed to miss this but he wasn't comparing the NRC to the scroll. He was simply saying that this server isn't technically 100% GMS-like as Kim had taken out the scroll.

@On topic. Is it possible that the NRC was in the files but not actually implemented in the game yet?

 

I completely missed that. Crimsonwood was released in v59.

 

Not complaining nor trolling, just joking. Sorry if I offended you.

 

I don't see a point in removing it. Hermits honestly are not super overpowered to level up even if they have good gear, because their mobbing ability is really bad. For end game, a higher attack claw will eventually beat it out regardless. Night Lords are an overpowered class in the end game regardless of this item. Removing it won't make a difference, it'll just push people to low dex builds a bit faster than they naturally will anyway.

I agree this sucks for other classes, but it's just Neckson's poor balancing choices. A lot more needs to be done if you want the game balanced. This doesn't really change end game.

 

I can see where you guys are coming from with it being such a high level statless equip and it being unfair, but I personally enjoyed doing the exchange quests to obtain mine back in the day. It took ages for me to finally get a raven claw and get all the materials together, and when I did I only 60%ed it. Maybe the issue is that the badges drop rate is too high on this server or the chance of getting the raven claw is too high. I've already seen 2 or 3 raven claws in the FM, and I'm sure there are more in possession. My suggestion would be to make it more difficult to obtain instead of removing it completely. Afterall, many will end up using it as end-game weapon. Very few people will ever have good enough equips to go low dex and use a craven/sleeve.

Also skandas may be added eventually, which will be more abundant than NRCs depending on the event. People will be more inclined to 30% the hell out of those than NRCs.

 

while every class can do what every other class does (mostly), MMORPG were never about complete balance. every class had its job, and looky looky, night lords are just dps whores

 

Assassins get skills like Avenger and Ninja storm. It might not be the best mobbing skill, but I don't think it justifies doing like 2x more damage than any other class when it comes to bossing. I don't think a lv 9x statless weapon that is frequently found from gash is balanced when it takes beyond godly gears to equal that damage otherwise for a regular build.

 

I think this is OP's point. He's not trying to change the end game nor is he claiming that Hermits are OP, he just wants to boost low dex builds, because right now almost everyone is dexless, with good reason too give the abundance of Shinobi Bracer and availability of NRC.

Maybe if Shinbi Bracers were much more rare then people would have to either go low dex or use garnier till NRC. But SB is common as it is and is a good bridging point before NRC.

 

I think that really depends how easy it is to craft this NRC? I think removing the item completely is silly because low dex is the superior build end game anyway. It should definitely be a difficult item to obtain and one that you can't mass scroll a bunch of. I haven't personally done so on this server so I can't comment on it being too easy.

 

It depends on your luck. You have to do the exchange quest to get 2 items required for crafting (or you can simply buy them from people who have it), which may take you hours if you're lucky, if not days if not so lucky. So by farming alone it may take some time, but if you have expendable cash you can craft a few at one go.

 

Yeah, that does sound OP then. I'm all for making it rare/hard to obtain. Gives you more to work for and a better feeling of accomplishment to be that pr0 d3xl3ss sin who has an NRC.

 

To be fair. Treat and Next have been at Nightshadows for over 10-20 levels. That's a lot of badges. In GMS it only took about 1-2 hrs of grinding to get 50+ Badges anyway, so, I feel that the drop rate is fine as it is now, imo. I'm a little low to be there, but, it does take me beyond 1 hr to get more than 20.

As for the actual topic of removing the NRC and things of the like, I think it's a moot point. With the experience rate where it is, it won't take you long to level to the point where going Low-dex is better.

As for the market/economy of the server in regards to dexless items and the like... UNLIKE GMS, we have people getting free NX on a daily basis, and a good portion of that NX moves into the gacha system. For the amount of players we have, we are getting a lot of gacha, and with that said, that means we'll be seeing more powerful equips sooner, making the low-dex more viable soon enough anyway. For now, yes, the NRC is fairly strong, but, give it another month or two. You won't see many around.

This is all just personal opinion. I won't be arguing over anything after this post, so, do me a favour and just take this into consideration rather than trying to openly bash it.

Thanks.

 

Nls may have high DPS...but we gotta HP wash a shit load and be funded enough to do that ridiculous DPS. Like illusion said, every class has its job, nightlords just happens to be damage. Hell, I'm pretty sure u won't complain when NLS go Zak with ya.