Ghost Ship safe spot alternatives

Yea and do stop yourself before you try to repeat the point that people aren't leeching there because there are no safe spots.
Lmao

 

Holy shit I can't believe this is something even worth arguing about. Contrarian soapbox preaching has gone too far.

It's literally just a rope to prevent 100% of all future griefing(both accidental and purposeful) in a popular map, and can be accomplished with a very minor and quick tweak.

Reading this thread makes me want the rope for different reasons.

 

LOL?
Sadly at this point I have to concede that literacy might be an issue among the playerbase. Decent arithmetic though!

 

If I were a leech seller and I lost my afk buyers because someone 'griefed' by aggroing mobs before CCing, I wouldn't continue to sell there.

 

if you're selling leech in GS you're probably a bishop; just heal your leechers if someone knocks them off the rope

 

Ghost Ship is low level leech regardless so it shouldn't be sold by ratio but hourly, the buyers should also be notified that the map isn't safe by the seller, the buyers shouldn't really be fully "AFK" when receiving leech at this map.

Peach monkeys then Chipmunks should be better leech exp anyways.

 

I've bought leech there more than several times, I've never went to gs for leech or level at, unless you're solely leeching your character(s) then sure I guess Ghost Ship would be the only alternative but either way as long as the monsters in that map are being "one shot" then there is a pseudo-safe spot, which should suffice long enough unless you're solo leeching multiple characters yourself and don't want to move your characters to FM or the safe cabin on the boat thats a skill issue, as thats already been mentioned. Kimberly has also already posted the reason to why its like that and I would have to agree with her, the map is overpowered for what it gives.

It's a popular leeching map, a popular training map as well where people can foot-pedal without any issues.
In GMS it was the most popular botting map, with the addition to NLC chimney monsters with their op exp which is most likely why Kimberly didn't want to add them into the game. Having a safe spot in Ghost Ship would just have people making multiple Dark Knights or Mages for farming (DK at Sleepywood point farming / Mages meso farming) so its actually a good change that Kimberly and staff decided to do.

 

I find it hard to believe that leeching is the main reason behind why ghost ship maps lack a safe spot. If that is the case, every single leech map (Wraiths, Red Slimes, Wind Raiders, Wolf Spider, Ulu 2, Ulu 3, Petri, Skele, 1-2F, 3-4F, 5-6F, ToT, Ludi Maps, Mulung Maps, etc) should adhere to that standard.

In fact, scratch what I just said. Since all maps can be a leech spot, therefore no maps should contain safe spots.

 

It was in general due to the map's popularity, the reason Kimberly had it implemented here is because another server has done it as well, those were her words.

I just construed it in my own way within her reason on her choice being linked and quoted here.

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/the-end-of-2021.42967/

So I just accepted it, a few others here and I think the change is good, if theres problems then its clearly a skill issue.

As mentioned here by OP they already found a solution, theres a pseudo-safe spot as long as someone is attacking.

 

Just here to help push the GS thread to its 6th page.

 

Making it so the highest exp per hour maps don't have safe spots seems like fair balance. If leechers want to leech comfortably or grinders want to afk in their map safely, then they should pursue alternative maps and trade exp gain for comfort.

This can lower map competition and maplelegends can lower the amount of channels back to 6, make players bump into each other more often, creating a more social experience.

 

People seem to have pretty strong opinions about this. Fascinating! Truly.

 

I think it's time to revive this suggestion, considering recent safe-spot adding patch on CD / Shaolin, to prevent gray misconducts making conflicts and unnecessary tasks for staffs to deal with it.

Ghost ship is kind of low-level grind/leech zone, I don't see any reason for this map was excluded from adding safespot unless purpose is 'to teach newcomers how they can be involved into mess, and how to deal with it', which I don't think it's that good idea for that level zone. I would say at least from ulu2 it's not bad idea to introduce that 'bad side of mapowner / afk / ToS' but doing it on GS but not doing above it seems weird for me.

'Highest EPH map should have their own risk' logic lost its power already, from recent CD/Shaolin safespot adding, in behalf of staffs convenience.

if 'mid-stairway paperweight bot heal' was issue, we may keep vertical attack range of mobs but add new rope on ceiling can provide safe spot.

We've suffered enough for 2 years, please deliver peace to our fav grinding/leech zone.

 

I still disagree. I've been to GS2 recently and noticed most channels are full of people actually grinding there rather than it being claimed by several leech sellers.
I personally prefer that people who are actively grinding -- or self-leeching -- to have the benefit of available maps rather than it being claimed by sellers.

Peach monkey leech exists with actual safe spots. I'd rather the mages using ults go there rather than taking up heal-weak maps from grinding clerics.

 

It doesn’t make sense to punish both leechers and buyers on a single map. It’s just a level range that players need to get through, which is already frustrating because it’s slow. Forcing players to grind in suboptimal areas simply to avoid being griefed doesn’t solve the problem—it’s bad design. When I think back on my worst experiences, they were almost all at Ghost Ship. Issues like map ownership disputes, active griefing, and similar frustrations stand out.

So what’s the debate about here, really? This is a level 50+ training spot where newer players are forced to deal with issues like hiding in the Cash Shop or FM just to avoid dying while AFK, even when they hold map ownership. It’s a poor experience, and in my oppionon it needs to be fixxed. Where else can you just kill people when they hold Mapowner to take over a Map, griefing Leechers is also Fun isnt it?

The argument that one of the best training spots for Clerics and Priests shouldn't attract more leech sellers may seem fair on the surface, while it ignores the fact that the most grief is caused by noobs and not leech seller/buyer wich first run into issues with Mapownership etc.. If maps are overcrowded because someone is using foot pedals or other methods as long as it’s allowed by the staff; it’s their responsibility to maintain a good player experience. If reintroducing mini-dungeons is the solution, then so be it.

 

What if the peach monkey map was actually better EPH for leechers than GS2? Would this change your opinion?

 

Thank you, for bringing up viewpoint which I almost forgot, was good refresh!

Half joke half serious, player talented/skilled so can pullout better EPH than GS2, in peach monkey, never sells low level leech.