Multiclienting on Bosses

Yes

 

its not a bannable offense , sweaty offense... but not bannable :3

 

pally mules and bucc mules kinda broken and heavily abused in horntail... I agree to remove it for bosses such as horntail but will have many salty players very angry.

Dex Bucc mules render targeted seduce useless gives extra lives and si for warriors. Bringing 3 buccs gives infinite resurrections like wheel of fortune in current maplestory

A pally mule without any gear speeds up ht run by 10 minutes hammering

 

I am personally in support of blocking multiclient at bossing, it's pretty absurd what you can do on one computer.

 

but if someone 2 computers, we cant really complain or "ban them"

 

Sure, why not? I imagine very few people play on the same IP address, and even then the GMs can figure out whose mules are whose. Let us put an end to HH mules, SI mules, and the like. The only thing nostalgic about this server at this point is all the high leveled characters are "afk farming" which is a psuedo version of the botting that went on in GMS. How is it that a person can use their bowmaster and a melee attacker at the same time in CWKPQ? Something is off about how end game is on this server, and I have been around since launch.

 

Never let it be said that controlling multiple clients is not challenging.

 

It's a little "dirty play" but it does not warrant a ban in my opinion as it takes an enormous effort to grind up 9 characters to be HT worthy and not to mention the time and cost required to achieve that.

Then there is also the difficulty of managing a main and 8 other mules at once during the actual fight soooooo.... yeah..

 

I think you fail to realize the extra effort, time, and money spent into bringing extra mules into bosses. whether it be the pots your mule consumes, the leech youve done/bought for the mule or the resets used, these 4th job mules take a lot of effort.
As someone that has done 4 client HT with 3 attackers, i can tell you this shit is not easy.
I think people should stop complaining about how other people choose to boss and worry about themselves ❤️

 

inb4 multi-clients is forbid and bananable

 

What's wrong with letting people play the way they want to play? I don't see any of the people who multiclient in HT trying to moralize or say this is how the game should be played. Most of them just seem to enjoy the added challenge and get satisfaction from mastering new techniques and adding value. It doesn't stop people from running single client HTs. The people optimizing HT are off in their own land, enjoying the game in their own way, and a lot of them are really helpful to any new runners looking to learn how to kill the boss. I like a lot of the people running their efficient HTs, for the most part they're fun to hang out with and chat to. So I don't really understand the hate they get and I'm not sure if their haters have really spoken to many of them. They aren't ruining HT. It doesn't ruin their runs by getting rid of mules, if anything they can still apple or just add a 5th or 6th man.

I don't think the game would be any better for dropping the skill floor. If anything it would just be more boring for the people who enjoy trying to optimize. They've gotten to where they are because of their hard work. As someone who only use a single client for HT, I respect the work they put in and I'm happy for their success. It's a game, and it doesn't hurt anyone to simply play how you want. There's a cost in time, resources, and energy that comes with every decision, and if people have the commitment for it, it's fine. If they don't, then the game is still playable. HT is no less runnable because of them. The multi-client folks just want the higher cap.

 

the balance must be restored

 

I think this is more of a problem with endgame in general. When HT is the only option for endgame players then they're going to find ways to optimize it. I would say most of us share the same view that NT is garbage, toad is garbage, and cwk was fairly decent but is pretty garbage now with scroll prices tanking. That leaves only HT as a viable option for endgame content which is why so many people continue running it at 200. I do agree that muling is way too easy though. I'm sure it gets harder with 3 clients or different classes but muling a dexbucc takes very little effort because pet auto hp heals any damage I take so all I need to do is remember to feed my pet. Hammer mule takes some extra effort but a few extra key presses every 15 seconds isn't that hard and gives a lot of value in HT. Not sure what I'd change though because like Alyosha said removing mules from HT wouldn't really impact the runs these mules are brought on. If we're clearing with 45-50 minutes left then taking out 2 hammers and SI won't change much. We'll still clear it'll just take longer or we'd bring another attacker/use attack pots.

 

Totally agree that others should stop worrying and let people play the game however they see fit. I think OP was just trying to get an understanding of where the staffs stood on this. Many people I know who use SI/HH mules opt to do so, because they want to optimize on making mesos and not rely on selling leech for mesos.

The same people complaining about mules in HT are probably the same ones using HS/SI/MU/HB/SE/Haste/Sweeper/Bear/unicorn mules to sell leech in an effort to optimize meso farming. If that’s not a sweaty offense, I don’t know what is.

I think the issue of multi-client should be addressed as a whole and not just limited to bossing.

NGL, this is genius, but I think this is a separate issue in itself and warrants taking a look at.

 

Can a GM chime in on this? I would like to know the legality of it as well.

 

such extra effort and challenge

 

Bow masters just press hurricane and click out and it just keeps hitting until you get hit so it’s not the hardest to attack on a bm and another account. As for this topic in general people would just get around the multi clienting like they did during christmas pq so i see really no point in banning it lol since it’d just screw over a few people. Buccs being able to have 999 avoid easily is honestly broken and maybe the avoid formula should be adjusted but other than that i feel like mules are fine at HT and if people invested that much in a char they should be able to use it. If someone really wants to spend their time making 8 HH mules I say let em be