range (ATK) of 1 Handed swords

I don't even know why this thread exists.

The benefit of 1h sword over 2h sword is that you can reach max speed without si, and hence 1h sword is the better option in a no-si scenario. If you make 1h swords provide the same dmg output as 2h sword then 2h swords will be useless because there's no benefit in having a 2h sword if you need si to function. Might as well go 1h and booster and save yourself the hassle of getting si.

Stop comparing in an SI scenario. The advantage of a 1h wep is that you don't need SI and you perform much better without SI.

If we're talking pink bean as end game then yeah there might be buccs there so use 2h there, but if the other end game as it is right now is 6man HT, you won't necessarily have a bucc in every 6man HT squad and so having a decent 1h/shield set will shine there as it'll perform much better than the 2h counterpart. You aren't crippled in a 6man HT squad that has no SI.

 

2h swords and 1h swords are built for different purposes, by playing 1h sword + shield you do get less damage but the play style is aimed for “tankier” build, however defense in this game does nothing as we all wash hp (which is not optional if you wanna boss and have end game content), I would understand the damage diff if there was something else to balance it, but since there’s no other option I agree with Magen’s opinion

 

That something else is speed and self-reliance.

No Si: 1h sword > 2h sword
With SI: 2h sword > 1h sword.

If you buff 1h sword to be equal to 2h sword as per this guy's suggestion then you get the following:

No Si: 1h sword > 2h sword
with SI: 1h sword = 2h sword

I ask you this, then, why go 2h at this point? Currently 1h gives you the ability to deal more dmg without si.

 

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/paladin-damage-comparison-20wa-shield.36404/

useful dpm chart for 1h vs 2h sword, using a realistic 20 atk shield

without SI, NT 1h, timeless 1h, reverse 1h and carabella seems to be pretty strong, topping over every 2h except for ST in terms of DPM.
If we make 1h's DPM to be as strong as 2h when SI, then its only fair that we also NERF 1h's DPM when not having SI, aka shifting attack speed from fast (5) to normal (6)

 

+1.

Just get both settings and switch in conditions rather than argue endlessly. That's much more realistic solution.

 

In before your next post comes in as "pls make claymore's speed faster because i realized sparta sucks for hero and im not dedicated to make/scroll a 23+ attack shield so I've switched to claymore but I can't find buccs for my 6man ht run and i cant be bothered to bring in my own si mule but I still want to do good easy damage compared to stonetooth users".

 

I think you should learn how damage actually works in maplestory before making balance suggestion threads.

 

1H fast(4) is the best only w/o SI.
2H normal(6) is the best only with SI.
ST fast(5) is good for both!

 

Not sure which end game content you refer to? But I often see heroes hanging on ropes for their dear life in 6man HT as SED. The DPM doesn't really matter as long as the run doesn't fail.
About the gain from apples, you are better off playing NL if you really want the maximum returns from consuming an apple.

+1

 

Here is the data of end-game gear paladin
+7weapon
20wa shield
10wa mon
14wa cape
21wa glove

Paladin damage comparison 20wa shield

I'd say none of swords is the worst and none of swords is the best.
dpm change in different circumstances.

I do agree to let Maple Warrior Shield to be an achieve-able choice. But they are so rare in MapleLegends. Which makes 1h weapon at a bad spot right now.

Some messages to GM :
Please give 1h weapon a chance.
With 2020 anniversary maple weapon upgrade system, there were no people willing to upgrade "Maple Shield" to "Maple Warrior Shield".
As a one of the end-game viable gear, "Maple Warrior Shield" should not be treated like that.
The upgrade system totally gives NO HOPE for 1 hand weapon user.
Especially to old play-style paladin, which is using crushed skull(1h bw) + shield.
btw You can try to owl Maple warrior shield and see what you get. hehe.
Nise

 

Don't worry. no one thinks it's balanced. we're just getting deal with it.

I train 1h hero and I do know I do lesser dmg than most of heroes with 2h swords since I provide SI everytimes with my SI mule, but I don't feel it bad or wrong, since it's 'ME' who choosed 1h memesword for it's freaking cool brandish motion instead of 2h's dumbass motion and covering my cute eyes.
ofc, no one talks shit about my meme damage cos I do enough dmg anw with my 1h sword (and i'll bitch, stop providing SI+@ if they dare do lmao)

and I do every contents which I can join very well. beating someone and feeling orgasm from it isn't my hobby. problem?

 

If there really has to be a buff, it would make more sense to give shields more utility as opposed to buffing 1h swords in an already monotonous game.

 

The Timeless Kite Shield has 10 slots now so its better than Maple Warrior Shield right?

 

You get ~15 stats, 5 avoid (lol), and a bnuch of weapon def on the Timeless Kite Shield in exchange for tradability. Not exactly an enticing prospect.

 

Without SI, the damage of 2h swords are nowhere near 1h flairgraves / speargraves.
It's a trade-off. Either you recruit a buccaneer or you bring a SI mule everytime.
The only OP sword is stonetooth back in the days.
But with NT and timeless weapons, stonetooth is not that OP anymore.
So it's pretty balanced.

As a player, you can always choose the sword that you think is strongest.
And we see more people going with 1h NT sword now comparing to the old RK vs ST vs Claymore era.