Information September 2023 Balance Changes [Explained]

If scaling is a problem at top end bosses, its more of a problem with the boss and apples. Changes should be made there instead of targeted nerfs that disproportionately affects players who ain't even benefiting from that scaling.
What the heck does the star cost increase even do a an endgame NL seriously? The only people suffering are noobs who can't afford to recharge ilbis at pqs. People didn't return to a nostalgic server for this shit.

 

This would actually be a good option if the use inventory is not the only inventory where space is limited.

 

That's like saying any class has the option to use a weaker weapon. Is that the argument we want to be making, instead of perhaps just nerfing TT a bit and leaving recharging costs alone?

 

Buccs?

 

i think it’s been done before. not to the extent of changing stars, but definitely for weapons, gloves, and capes

 

I throw tobis.

 

A side note, any thoughts on buffing shadow claw's duration?

When Alchemy was nerfed from buff duration +50% -> 25%, they increased shadow claw's duration (by 50% to 150s or 180s I think. I can't remember) to compensate. Then they reverted the shadow claw buff to its original 120 sec. (This is a straight up nerf to night lords).

Now they nerfed alchemy again but did not revisit shadow claw's duration. Please at the very least rebuff shadow claw's duration to a sufficient uptime, (say to 150 seconds or 180 seconds).

 

If they had framed it as a straight up nerf to night lords, would night lords have been more receptive to it?

 

I was thinking NLs should probably repay all of the apples they've gotten for free. Is there any chance we can get alchemist to go down to 75% duration? And it should be 50% for anyone without alchemist

 

Shud just go ahead and delete all the drops from runs where NL participated too

 

The first alchemist nerf had the crit changes for NL which got reverted. The shadow claw change happened when the bug got fixed in Anniversary 2021 with the buff to 180 seconds and got reverted a year later.

 

Yeah this revert was overkill considering that was a 50% reduction in duration. given the original reasoning to the buff to begin with.

 

NLs sip potions twice as good

 

I understand the reasons against revealing it but reading through this topic on drop rates... alot of this could have been avoided if the exact % drop rates were revealed for scrolls equips etc... so people can have a more realistic view of what they are dealing with. But as I understand it the way maple calculates drops isn't a straight up droprate percentage anyway. But someone tangible people could understand would go a long way into helping people realize that even with nerfs there is a ceiling you are dealing with regardless.

I understand revealing this info can be seen as harmful because it might discourage players from playing but this is an MMO after all and MMOs are notorious for laughably bad drop rates because they are trying to encourage trading within a community and not a solo affair (even though i playing iron man mode)

 

IMO, I don't think it should be staff's responsibility to show everything. Players are capable of data tracking and working together to compare results. If everything was straight up explained to you, you'd lose a lot of the mystery in what's already a simple game.

For most people who are just grinding here and there, they won't be able to distinguish between the pre and post-nerf rates because of variance. Some people will get lucky and some will get unlucky.

 

all class deserve a mobility skill is best QoL ever
ex DK could pole vaulting
Hero - shield gliding
Pal - magic stick riding
Bow/xb - bow away
Bucc - fucc it succ it boom pow

 

If you want every class to have flash jump consider playing GMS instead.