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STOP HOARDING

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by RemiIia, Mar 27, 2023.

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  1. RemiIia
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    make all prestigious coins from pouches tradeable once and only once.
    make all pouches tradeable once and only once.

    WS/CS = untradeable
    Pouches = tradeable once and only once/ Sold in Merchant once.
    1 slot per >POUCH 5<

    Coins = tradeable once and only once/ sold in merchant once

    once prestigious coins are traded, they become untradeable items.
    once pouches are traded, they become untradeable items.
    prestigious coins that haven't been traded stack on separate slots from the untradeable ones, which has their own slots as well.
     
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    why did you make a 2nd thread on this topic? and people say I spam the forums lmao
     
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    a different solution requires different attention now.
    my other thread fell behind in pages.
     
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    could you explain what this is supposed to do
     
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    why tho
     
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    who hurt u by hoarding lol
     
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    I don't think hoarding is prestigious coins is an actual issue at the moment, perhaps the coins serving as a tax free currency isn't ideal though
     
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    Hypothetically speaking, would it be possible to implement a meso tax to coins/pouches traded, imposed on the receiving party of said coins/pouches? If there was a, say, 100k (2,5% of 4m) transaction fee per coin received, that would almost certainly put a stop to its use as a tool for evading taxes... But, then we'd have to ask ourselves what the next tax evasion strategy is going to be. However, regardless of that, I do believe that it'd generally be a positive change to move what ever tax evasion is going on right now away from the incredibly convenient and most in-demand item in the game, over to something less convenient and significant. At the very least, that would force people to be a bit more creative with their tax evasion in the future. Thoughts?
     
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    It should be possible with some work of our wonderful developer but the question remains if it's fair for us to decide a flat number of meso cost per transaction? Because 2.5% of the current market price might be completely different in the future and do we then manually have to adjust the tax according to average market price every maintenance?

    Personally I feel like some system of tax would be fair, but I do wonder how feasible it is and if it really adds a noticeable benefit
     
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    Can you explain why you think people are hoarding in the first place? I might have missed it in the other thread but you didn’t address it here.

    I don’t think we’ve actually seen any signs that player coin accumulation is actually making a net-negative impact on the player community as a whole.

    We just had an absolutely massive influx of coin into the game and there was no economic impact to the coin market throughout the month the event ran. Not a single change to the coin economy happened.

    I’m not denying there aren’t people actively making big purchases of coin for various reasons but this isn’t like a couple months ago where people were literally tapping the FM dry of over every single coin.
     
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    Great questions. Ideally it would be an automated process using data from recent transactions to calculate the current market value. To whether it adds a noticeable benefit or not, perhaps we could dive into the numbers from before coin implementation to find out how big of a portion trade taxes made up out of all the different meso sinks.
     
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    wait i thought ml taxes were supposed to benefit the rich
     
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    yeah but we've benefited too much, so much that we just evaded taxes all together
     
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    couldn't people just drop trade them? or are coins not droppable?
     
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    if it happen and people hoard/use apples as "tax free coin" we can consider it a mariage buff? o.o
     
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    Can somebody explain to me why hoarding is a problem? My smooth brain can't come up with anything. undecidedmush
     
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    it's not, but humans will complain about anything for no reason lol
     
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    I don't know lol
    I don't even play this game, I just come here to make suggestion to further improve the experience for you all.
     
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    no YOU!
     
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