Not a Bug Taunt Debuff Not Increasing Drop Rate of Mobs

hmm. I think that using dragon scales isn't the best example since they have a low drop rate, so RNG can really screw with you here.

I suggest trying again using ETC as a measurement of drop rate. Most monsters drop their respective ETC at about a 50% rate. So, you can check to see if there is a noticeable difference in the etc drop rate when using taunt. This should help to see if the skill is actually increasing the drop rate or not.

 

If an item has a 1 percent change to drop usually 40 percent more would only make it a 1.4 percent chance. With even rarer items the difference in droprate with taunt is lower. In my experience with using taunt as a shadower I’ve felt like using it purely for droprate is a waste and you’re better off walking to another mob or bstepping again. For example if you 2 hit a mob you have a choice to use 2bsteps or 2bsteps and taunt. If in the time it takes you to kill 2 mobs and taunt them, you have the time to kill 3 mobs instead which would be a better droprate than the first. Taunt is only worth it for the bonus exp or if you can one shot mobs with it and want to hunt low level monster cards since the animation is really long. Hopefully I made sense with my post and if the wording is bad I can try to fix it.

 

Taunt doesnt magically make everything drop sadly :/ , its be to OP if this was the case tbh

 

but it doesnt magically make it that # either. its purely RNG. like i said, Taunt would be to op if it worked all the time

 

Part of the trouble is that even if taunt does increase drop rate substantially, you waste time using it.

Half of 140% is 70%.

 

Using "time to farm" isn't accurate to determine drop rates. This is because you could potentially "slack" during one of your sessions. A better way to estimate it would be to count the number of kills with taunt and see how many etcs drop, and do the same without taunt.

Though, I think you might be right in that it isn't affecting drop rate, but there is also the possibility that you are killing monsters faster when u dont use taunt, thus making it faster to farm by not using it.

Basically, measure drop rate based on number kills, not time you spend farming.

By the way, you can accurately determine the number of kills you are getting by looking at your exp bar from before and after. Subtract the difference than divide by however much exp each monster gives you.

 

I would think time dependent tests you've done so far are all invalid, because like others said, taunt is slower at killing and also time between kills can affect the result.

If you want accurate test data, count by drops per kills like akashsky suggested. Also, for it to be decent data, you will need LARGE number of kills since RNG can be unreliable in small sample.

Now, I hope one of the devs can verify that it isn't a bug, but to me it sounds like you had bad RNG with a bad skill, instead of it being a bug.

 

He won't need a large number of kills if he does the test based on the ETC dropping from individual monsters. The ETC drop rate is known to be around 50%, so if you were to kill 100 monsters, you can expect to get somewhere between 40-60 ETC with a very large certainty. If taunt truly does work, then it would change the drop rate of ETC items from around 0.5 to around 0.642 (not sure if my math is correct here). So, out of 100 kills he would get somewhere between 54 to 74 ETC items.

Basically, since the drop rate for ETCs is very high, you don't need a large sample size to estimate it.

 

What I'm saying is that normally people just kill monsters by spamming their attack skills. When you use taunt, you are using up time hitting them with that skill before using your real skills to kill them. This means that if you normally kill a monster in one hit, using taunt first means you are essentially killing it in two hits. If you kill a monster in three hits, using taunt first means you are killing it in four hits. This means you are taking more time to kill the monsters.

The fact that you are using a time metric and actually getting worse results using taunt makes sense. How is your exp/hr with and without taunt looking?

 

The reason why taunt is efficient in grinding is because the most optimal place to grind at is Shaolin 7f which has really tanky mobs. When you 7 hit them and taunt right before the last hit there will be a huge exp difference and the cast time compared to how long it takes to kill them isn't that much different. When you 2 hit a mob casting taunt when you could instead bstep again it won't be better. The droprate increases, but the actual time to get items might not decrease. When an item has a 0.1 percent dropate increasing it to 0.14 won't be noticable at all, while killing 99 mobs instead of 66 might be a bigger difference.